Wednesday, March 03, 2021

Proposal: Ree Viel

Unpopular, 2 votes to 7. Josh

Adminned at 04 Mar 2021 22:44:14 UTC

Create a new rule called “Relevation”:

The Doge shall, once an Elector has achieved victory, reveal a summary of the secret information that has been transmitted to them throughout this dynasty as soon as reasonably possible for them.

I’m not super comfortable with contributing to the dynasty if that means in the end that Josh will get to keep solely for themselves a huge valuable load of inter-dynastic information (trust, betrayal, behavior info).

If someone gets it, we should all get it.

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

03-03-2021 11:16:19 UTC

I’m a little leery of the “all” in there - there’s a lot of stuff that’s meaningless, and which would be labourious to compile (DM back-chatter with players, the specific wording of PMs).

I’m only keeping a summary log, which I’m happy to share at the end of the dynasty, although I will of course vote DEF on this to allow Electors to chose to protect their privacy if they wish. (I do note that Cuddlebeam is the requestor, here; Cuddlebeam, who has promised permanent grudges to anyone who ever betrays him.)

Madrid:

03-03-2021 12:29:06 UTC

Editted it to “Summary”.

And yeah, the ‘grudges’ is just avoidance and carefulness when making alliances, not outright revenge. It’s not as tragically severe as it seems, but I do want to underline that I will behave that way.

Josh: Observer he/they

03-03-2021 12:36:55 UTC

imperial

Raven1207: he/they

03-03-2021 12:46:16 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

03-03-2021 13:28:00 UTC

This is too vague. If someone PMs Josh to say “change my Secret Faction again because I don’t trust X, and we both know Y is unreliable after what happened in that other dynasty, also happy birthday for Thursday”, how much of that secret sentence is this rule actually asking him to reveal? I’d rather see the plainer “when X happens, note this down” debug log suggested in Meet Me At The Shooting Range.

I’m not sure there’s really that much interdynastic information at stake here: Josh can only see some game actions, with no context for why they were taken. Secret information dynasties often end with the Emperor having had no idea who knew what, or how someone suddenly won. The real insights will be in the secret player backchannels.

against

Madrid:

03-03-2021 14:04:02 UTC

That’s pretty sus, Kevan.

It’s just a summary.

Brendan: he/him

03-03-2021 14:11:47 UTC

against

Bucky:

03-03-2021 16:41:01 UTC

against

Zack: he/him

03-03-2021 16:50:17 UTC

imperial

pokes:

03-03-2021 16:51:56 UTC

against

Clucky: he/him

03-03-2021 21:17:00 UTC

imperial