The idea behind the current version is that the post-Wall players get the drawbacks like Ascension Criteria but not the benefits. While there isn’t much post-Wall content, what there is already contains at least one breakage where a post-Wall rule refers to a pre-wall definition.

This proposal also needs to amend the “A Mindjacker whose level falls below the Tier of the definition” in 2.1 to make it clearly apply.

Strong redex. The lower Tier rules still apply after Tier 6, it’s just that we won’t be allowed to take actions defined in those rules.

While it might be benificial to make precise what those actions are (eg. adding a qualifier that Existential Actions can’t be carried out), acting as if the entire rules are flavour text is going too far.

@Bucky edited! it now also removes the reference to suspicion from the upper Tiers and adds the required clarification to The Wall.

This breaks things, sadly - for example, Matterium harvesting is an action whose ruletext, generation and use is currently split between Tiers 4, 5 and 8, meaning that there would be no way to ever generate or use it were this to pass.

I don’t have a problem with a stronger wall but think it should be limited to defining interactions, rather than creating new and possibly perverse ruletext use cases - a Mindjacker at Tier 6 not being able to make another Mindjacker or Avatar whose Level / Occupancy Tier is below Tier 5 the target of their action, for example.

4, 5, 8 and 9 I should say.

hmmm, yeah. good points all. this is a tricky one, & i’m not sure how to approach it in a way that doesn’t break something!
considering that… i think i’ll just rework this one entirely into something simpler then, because my real problem is just that the Wall as-is is unclear as to *how* much it blocks, on account of the “what is a dynastic action really?” issue.