Monday, May 13, 2024

Proposal: Rich and Reckless

Withdrawn. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 15 May 2024 05:25:06 UTC

Add a new step to the end of the list in “Distribution”:-

* A Thief’s Wealth is equal to their Florins value, plus the Florins in all of their own Pouches.

In “The Haul”, replace “If there is no pending Haul post” with:-

If there is no pending Haul post and the City has not made a Triumphal post so far this dynasty.

Add a rule named ‘Grand Heist’ with the following text:

==Grand Heist==
Each Thief can have a number of Grand Heists, which is publicly tracked and defaults to zero.

Grand Heists have a Description, which has no effect, but helps to create a good narrative.

At any time, if a Thief has met the Standard for an Grand Heist then they may Attempt it by making a blog post announcing as such. Such a Thief is known as an Attemptor. If another Thief or the City can verify that the Attemptor has met the Standard for the Grand Heist, the Attemptor makes a Notoriety Check. If they succeed, they may increase their Heists by 1. If they fail, they are placed in the Gaol. Each Thief may only claim each individual Heist once in the dynasty.

Any Thief who has claimed every attainable Heist has achieved Victory.

The possible Heists, their Descriptions, and their Standards are as follows:

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Heist !! Description !! Standard
| Mansion Jewels || Only the richest get into this mansion. You'll need to flash your cash - and there's the small matter of the 50 florin entrance fee… || Have more than 200 Florins. Pay 50 Florins to Attempt this Heist.
| The Monk's Diamond || It takes speed to outrun the swift monks at the temple. Plus, the police station is right next door. Better run. || Have no Injuries. Perform one additional Notoriety Check for every ten Wealth you have.
| Amethyst of Strength || The legendary Amethyst of Strength is held at a nearby museum. It doesn't actually grant strength, but it's surrounded by some pretty strong guards. || Have the highest Arms value and no Pouches.
| First Prize || At the underground Bragging Competition, the judges are happy to turn a blind eye to any wrongdoings, as long as you're the best in something. || Have the highest Notoriety. Perform an additional Notoriety Check.
| Crystal Chandelier || At a fancy restaurant, the biggest gangs often have shootouts. If a notorious thief shows up, maybe they'll clear out - leaving the beautiful chandelier for you. || The current Target must be Restaurant. Have a Notoriety of 50.

Kevan tried it earlier. I’ve just adapted the Awards from last dynasty to fit this.


Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

13-05-2024 10:36:34 UTC

Ffwrch. I fell into the trap of writing this proposal but sending it just now. If there needs to be any edits, I’m going to have to repropose. But I think this helps to make it a good story.


13-05-2024 13:55:26 UTC

imperial Uhmmm I don’t know how win conditions work; I guess it’s like get all the achievos first? ok sure I guess if Kevan thinks it’s fine

JonathanDark: he/him

13-05-2024 15:19:35 UTC

“If another Thief or the City can verify that the Attemptor has met the Standard for the Grand Heist, the Attemptor makes a Notoriety Check“

What’s the actual action that the Attemptor is waiting for? How does another Thief or the City “verify”? Comment with specific text on the blog post? Use a voting icon? Validate doesn’t inherently imply any particular action to take that can be auditable as having been done.

JonathanDark: he/him

13-05-2024 15:20:26 UTC

That said, it’s a decent idea. It just needs some cleaning up.

Clucky: he/him

13-05-2024 16:13:16 UTC

The Monk’s Diamond feels too easy. New players can get it for free.

Crystal Chandelier is impossible, right?

overall I’d rather keep the heists a communal activity

Kevan: City he/him

13-05-2024 18:00:26 UTC


JonathanDark: he/him

14-05-2024 05:37:26 UTC


Kevan: City he/him

14-05-2024 11:42:03 UTC

Reminder to enacting admins that with six players my DEF vote will now only resolve to a majority once every other player has voted on a proposal.

And a reminder to players saying “ok sure I guess if Kevan thinks it’s fine”, that my Imperial Style is Scam-Neutral (“won’t remark on or move to close loopholes in proposals or the ruleset”).

NadNavillus: he/him

14-05-2024 12:48:19 UTC


I think I’m voting against. I’m not against the idea for victory but I don’t like:

“Any Thief who has claimed every attainable Heist has achieved Victory.”

The majority of thieves could simply keep adding heists to stop a victory.

Clucky: he/him

14-05-2024 20:47:58 UTC


Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

15-05-2024 05:02:32 UTC

against fine