Sunday, August 15, 2021

Proposal: Scaled Up Spinning

Timed Out. Fails 1-5 with 1 unresolved DEF—Clucky

Adminned at 18 Aug 2021 02:09:38 UTC

In the list of available types of Machine in Rule 2.2, perform the following changes:

Change the Cost of both Spin and Press machines to “one to four Energy”.
Change Effect of a Spin machine to “for each Energy spent to pay the cost for this Activation, roll DICE10 and gain a Box containing the result of that roll.”
Change Effect of a Press machine to “Choose a number from 1 to 5. Gain one box containing the chosen number for each Energy spent to pay the cost for this Activation.”

Comments

Vovix: he/him

15-08-2021 23:03:52 UTC

Probably a good improvement, but I don’t like this coming right after I splurged on a Cooling Widget for my Spin to get this exact effect. Can we work in some kind of compensation for the people who already spent resources on setting up larger-scale boxmaking infrastructure?

Bucky:

15-08-2021 23:26:07 UTC

What sort of compensation would be fair?

ais523:

16-08-2021 00:33:16 UTC

Probably the best compensation is to, for anyone who has a Cooling Widget on a Spin or Press, remove it and give them 10 Cogs (the cost of buying a Cooling Widget) in its place as part of this proposal. (If they still want the Cooling Widget they can just buy it again.)

ais523:

16-08-2021 00:34:32 UTC

On a side note, this breaks Cogbot, in that it now has a choice in how to take its action but nothing specifies how it takes the choice. (I don’t consider this a reason to vote down the proposal, though.)

Bucky:

16-08-2021 00:44:46 UTC

I don’t think any compensation is feasible. Most of the extra investment in cube-generation is in the form of players with both a spin and a press machine, and there’s no clean way to compensate those players.

Clucky: he/him

16-08-2021 00:53:23 UTC

why? you’re almost never going to have more than two energy. and if you wanna spin twice, just buy a cooling widget for your spin.

Vovix: he/him

16-08-2021 02:28:41 UTC

Could refund the cost of those as well, I suppose. A player who wants to keep them can re-buy them, but that gives them the option to reorganize their economy.

Bucky:

16-08-2021 02:36:46 UTC

Refunding Boxes applies the refund unfairly, because the proposal would pass at an unknown time in the middle of a Cycle.

Janet: she/her

16-08-2021 03:06:11 UTC

imperial

Clucky: he/him

16-08-2021 04:48:11 UTC

against

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

16-08-2021 14:38:52 UTC

against

Vovix: he/him

16-08-2021 18:47:41 UTC

against

ais523:

16-08-2021 22:06:32 UTC

against

Kevan: City he/him

17-08-2021 11:03:36 UTC

against