Adjust it – with proposals with EVC conditionals, it only makes sense to vote for them if the proposal is good either way, and if this enacts without the conditional it effectively negates all the gameplay so far.

you’d still literally be in the lead and it’s not like you’ve actually done anything to earn your 3 success you’ve just gotten lucky to be on two guard teams were the artifacts were trivially defendable and on burglar team where it was easy enough to steal an artifact so pretending like this “negates all the gameplay so far” is a very weird take

Adjust it

Actually I might have to change my vote. The proposal instructions say:

In “The Break-In” replace

But don’t mention the text to be replaced, just the new text. Is this even enactable without skipping the replacement part?

ah dang yeah missed that part will probably have to try this again

leaving this up for a bit to get more s. If everyone is cool with the adjustments I can include those just as part of the proposal but wanted to give others the choice if we include it or not, especially as like I pointed out I don’t think anyone has actually done much of anything to earn their current position in the game. People have just gotten lucky about which teams they’ve been on while we sort the rules out. So the flatter start might actually ultimately be fairer

From my previous experience (Edit the Edits): Clucky’s comment counts as an EVC, and therefore this proposal has been withdrawn, I think.

Yeah cause it’s broken

You said you were “leaving this up for a bit”, which is what I was responding to.

Also: Leaving my vote of since I did not do that previously.

Cant revise if too many people vote against

Yes. I’m against the proposal, and don’t feel the need to see it revised.

* If a Proposal’s author withdraws it using REVISE, and there were at least as many votes REVISE as votes AGAINST among the other (non-author) Agents’ Votes on that proposal at that time
* If a Proposal’s author withdraws it using REVISE, and the sum of FOR and REVISE votes for that Proposal exceeds or equals Quorum at that time

Note the use of “at that time”, meaning that at the time the author (Clucky in this case) casts a REVISE vote, the balance of votes is evaluated. Any votes after that don’t count towards whether or not the Proposal can be revised.

In this case, both criteria fail for this Proposal being Revisable.

CoV because now that it’s not Revisable, Clucky just needs to re-post it and lose the slot, unfortunately.

@Clucky “you’d still literally be in the lead and it’s not like you’ve actually done anything to earn your 3 success you’ve just gotten lucky to be on two guard teams were the artifacts were trivially defendable and on burglar team where it was easy enough to steal an artifact”:

That was not luck – the first two team assignments were luck, but the existence of a trivial strategy wasn’t. If I wasn’t on the team for which a trivial strategy worked, I would have pointed it out in order to get the rules changed.

The third team assignment was highly likely to make me a Burglar, so I tried to ensure that the rules would be Burglar-sided in advance of the assignment (via selectively fixing loopholes that benefited Guards over loopholes that benefited Burglars).

good jokes ais