I don’t think this is needed - admins always check who made the vote, so they can tell whether or not it’s s/k’d.

I appreciate it’s sometimes easy to miss, as a player, but adding an extra, specific requirement just opens this up to accidental or malicious votes that look a lot like self-kills but aren’t.

NO! I don’t think it needs to be a rule, I will do it as a style guide thing but enforcement seems open to abuse.

Most people write ‘s/k’ next to self-kill votes. Before voting you should probably read all comments thoroughly, and see who’s voting what. And as Kevan says, this could cause player errors or tricks, causing admin errors, causing CfJs and death and disaster etc.

Wait a second…

CoV

This allows players to vote against their own proposals without self-killing them. I like that idea.

I like the idea of more clarity, but the second bolded sentence is redundant and the whole concept is sorta open to scams.

I don’t like the idea of players being able to vote against the proposals without SKing them. The possibility of meta-level voting chicanery is not one that I am interested in.

It would be nice to be able to no-vote on your own proposal without s/king it, I think; but that’s not major enough. (Think of situations where you submit a proposal as a correction of someone else’s.)

Do you guys really think it would be abused like that? People declaring a self kill vote when it wasn’t their propoasal?

The abuse is more that someone could vote “SELF K1LLED” (with a “1” instead of an “I”) on their own flawed proposal, after it had a couple of votes in favour. If it timed out, it would enact.

The accidental misuse is a bigger issue - if someone casts an against vote but typos the “SELF KILLED” (or forgets and writes “s/k” or “I self-kill this”), either we won’t notice, or we’ll notice and have to get the proposer’s attention so that they can go back and self-kill it formally.

Both of these seem a lot more trouble than voters occasionally misreading and wasting a vote-click, on a proposal that’s already been self-killed.

Unneeded

CoV   per Kevan.