Monday, September 03, 2007

Proposal: Self-Preservation Society

Reached quorum, 8-0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 14:01:00 UTC

[ Rule 1.1 still seems to have that clause about rules not being able to regulate their own alteration - not only is this pretty much toothless (if I’ve scammed the ability to put an evil, ironclad rule into place, I can use the exact same ability to repeal this paragraph at the same time), it’s been humming a quiet, insane paradox for months: Rule 1.1 itself has a provision barring its own alteration, by saying that “The Ruleset and Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset”.

All that this paragraph is doing is kidding us that it’s preventing scams, and is perhaps discouraging people from proposing interesting “this rule requires a 2/3rd majority vote to amend” or “requires the Emperor to vote in favour of repealing it” mechanics. I don’t think we need it cluttering up the first rule of the ruleset every single Dynasty. ]

Remove the paragraph beginning “No Rule may contain a provision that bars itself from being altered and/or repealed.” from Rule 1.1 (Ruleset and Gamestate).

posted by Kevan at 03 Sep 2007 08:47:00 UTC Comments (9)

Comments

Josh: he/they

03-09-2007 10:25:50 UTC

for

aaronwinborn:

03-09-2007 11:12:32 UTC

for Sounds reasonable. Even if a phrase said ‘This rule may not be revoked or amended,’ and the Kaiju Gods were silly enough to pass it, a CoJ should probably be enough to get around that. And if not, then we get what we deserve.

Kevan: he/him

03-09-2007 11:43:48 UTC

There are various tricksy ways to get a rule like that revoked, the simplest one being a new rule that says something like “Rule 2.x has no legal power over the ruleset, and will be repealed along with this rule, as soon as this rule exists.”

Hix:

03-09-2007 13:43:46 UTC

for I’ve never cared for this rule.

Last time we had an unrepealable rule, we got around it by temporarily redefining “repeal”, “amend”, “modify”, or whatever the exact words used in the rule were.

Amnistar: he/him

03-09-2007 14:58:17 UTC

for

Zephyr:

03-09-2007 15:26:09 UTC

for

Hix:

03-09-2007 15:45:14 UTC

1 More vote for Quorum, but remember to wait until 12 hours have passed before Enacting.

Chivalrybean:

03-09-2007 16:18:17 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

03-09-2007 19:01:06 UTC

for