Thursday, May 02, 2024

Proposal: Self-Preservation Society

Timed out 0 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 04 May 2024 14:57:11 UTC

Add the following as a third bullet point to the rule Containers, if it exists, or Pouches if it does not:

* Repeat the previous step of this action as many times as wished, to a maximum of four times. These steps may be concatenated into a single wiki edit to obscure the precise sums allocated to each Pouch.

Add the following to the table of Possessions in the rule of the same name, as the first and third entries respectively:

| Black Glove || 0 || Enables the Riffle plan
| Flintlock || 2 || Enables the Menace plan

Add the following to the list of Plans in the rule The Plan:

| Target || Prior to the posting of each Haul, you may privately specify a Possession to the City. If you have at least 5 Florins when the Burglary is run, lose 5 Florins and the City adds the Possession so specified to the Haul.
| Riffle || If you have at least one Black Glove, lose a Black Glove, and become a Pickpocket for the purposes of this Haul. After a Haul is Distributed, if you were a Pickpocket in it, you may once within 24 hours of the Distribution of the Haul move one Pouch from the Inventory of another Thief to your own Inventory.
| Menace || If you have at least one Flintlock, lose a Flintlock, and become Menacing for the purposes of this Haul. In any Haul with at least one Menacing Thief, a Proposition is not valid if it would result in no Florins being distributed to all Menacing Thieves.

Comments

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 15:33:48 UTC

Is the Menacing status permanent? Also, “once within 24 hours of the move one Pouch” is missing a word after “the”

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 15:35:03 UTC

Thanks, fixed.

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 15:58:25 UTC

Target is still just as flawed as last time—it shouldn’t cost 3 to get a random item but 2 to pick an item of your choice. Would render

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 16:06:06 UTC

Also might be good to align this with

https://blognomic.com/archive/sticking_your_neck_out (which seems likely to pass) and make it cost Notoriety instead of Florins.

If we’re not okay with “spend 2 florins to increase the size of the pot by ~5 florins” then I think “spend 5 florins to add a gold ring (thus increasing the pot by ~7 Florins)” would probably be “busted” too.

But I also wonder if we really need both “add a random item” and “add an item of your choice”—maybe we just make it cost 3 Notoriety to add an item of your choice.

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 21:02:07 UTC

I do think there needs to be possession theft somehow, as everyone wrapping up their Florins in pouches with no consequences is going to make the gameplay a little stale. If not this Proposal, then some other Proposal should make having your Florins in pouches carry some risk.

Kevan: City he/him

03-05-2024 09:25:17 UTC

imperial

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 14:07:46 UTC

against as Josh is no longer around to flesh out this idea, and I think we can come up an alternative method of possession thievery.

4st:

03-05-2024 17:41:51 UTC

against Josh left us, abandoned idea is abandoned.

Desertfrog:

04-05-2024 09:49:22 UTC

against