Saturday, September 15, 2012

Proposal: Shouldn’t we start studying?

Self-killed. -scshunt

Adminned at 17 Sep 2012 08:03:29 UTC

Add a new rule, “The Classes”:

The Students will be taking classes according to the weekday, as described in this rule:
Monday, “Proposal” classes. All Proposals made during this class that have a “For” vote from the Professor needs Quorum minus one vote to pass. Analogously, all Proposals made during this class that have an “Against” vote from the Professor needs Quorum minus one vote to fail. All students can have up to 3 pending Proposals, if at least two of them were made during this class.The Professor shall take a break from his own Proposals to evaluate the Students work, and won’t be making any Proposals this day.
Tuesday, “Weighting” classes. All Students shall take a time to analyze the Pending Votable Matters (PVM), which means they must have an EVC on every PVM that have been pending for at least an hour before making other actions, which includes making a new PVM.
Wednesday, “The Ruleset” classes. The professor shall make a posts to discuss the current Ruleset. He and the students should compare it to other Dynasties Rulesets. This is an optional class, which means a Student can’t be said to have missed it.
Thursday, “Studying the Past” classes. The professor shall make a post about past Dynasties, emphasizing the pros and cons of them. This is an optional class, which mean a Student can’t be said to have missed it.
Friday, “The Relax and Enjoy the Game” classes. No student ever misses this class.
Saturday, “The new classes” classes. The professor shall make a Proposal for a new class. This Proposal does not count for the maximum Pending Proposals of the Professor, and also does not count for the maximum of 3 Proposals in a day of the Professor. The new class can be added to an already existing class of a weekday or can replace one or more of the already existing classes of that day. If this new class Proposal is pending for at least one hour, a Student can’t make an action if they didn’t already voted on it.
Sunday, “The Relax and Enjoy the Game” classes. No student ever misses this class.

A class does not exist if it’s not described in this rule.

If a Student fails to follow the class’s instructions, it means that the Student missed the class. Missing a class increases the “Classes Missed” value in the GNDT of a Student by one. Missing 3 classes changes a Student’s status to Expelled.

Add a column in the GNDT named “Status” and make every player status “Attending the classes”.
Add a column in the GNDT named “Classes Missed” and set every value of that column to 0.

Add a new rule, “Victory Conditions”:

If all but one Student’s status is “Expelled”, that student is said to have won the game.

It’s not possible to force other players to be Expelled (at least for now), so this victory condition should not “break” the game.

Comments

Bucky:

09-15-2012 15:48:04 UTC

against  on several counts - for example, I might not be reliably available to make the required posts - but I think you should repropose this in smaller pieces.

Clucky:

09-15-2012 16:24:48 UTC

against

Monday, “Proposal” classes. All Proposals made during this class that have a “For” vote from the Professor needs Quorum minus one vote to pass. Analogously, all Proposals made during this class that have an “Against” vote from the Professor needs Quorum minus one vote to fail. All students can have up to 3 pending Proposals, if at least two of them were made during this class.The Professor shall take a break from his own Proposals to evaluate the Students work, and won’t be making any Proposals this day.

First off, it just needs “Quorum minus one votes” of any kind to pass. Even if written as “Quorum minus one FOR votes” something with 7 FOR votes and 8 AGAINST could still be both failed and passed.

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Tuesday, “Weighting” classes. All Students shall take a time to analyze the Pending Votable Matters (PVM), which means they must have an EVC on every PVM that have been pending for at least an hour before making other actions, which includes making a new PVM.

If its (that have been pending for at least an hour) before making other actions this isn’t terrible but still annoying and might cause a ton of DEF votes. But it could also be read as (that have been pending) (for at least an hour before making other actions) which is clearly no good

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Wednesday, “The Ruleset” classes. The professor shall make a posts to discuss the current Ruleset. He and the students should compare it to other Dynasties Rulesets. This is an optional class, which means a Student can’t be said to have missed it.

enough alone to make me case a DEF vote even if I liked the rest, because we shouldn’t force Bucky to have to do anything


Everything else gets one of those three comments. So against

scshunt:

09-15-2012 17:18:23 UTC

imperial

IceFromHell:

09-15-2012 21:46:12 UTC

Thanks for the criticism, I actually rushed this a little since I had to do other stuff. It was more of a way for me to evaluate if there was an interest in this kind of proposals and how good (or bad) my ‘writting rules’ skill is.
I’ll kill this and redesign it when I have an open slot.

IceFromHell:

09-15-2012 21:48:53 UTC

(also, please keep posting criticism, if there is anything someone else wants to add)

Josh:

09-16-2012 07:22:00 UTC

for We’ve spend several days arguing about the definition of achievements and it’s super boring. I’d really like a mechanic that introduces some actual game. I’d be happy to pass this and work on fixing it at this stage.

quirck:

09-16-2012 09:43:43 UTC

This proposal was being written for 1.5 hours :) I was quite surprised when discovered that something new appeared between Murphy’s proposals.

against per Clucky

IceFromHell:

09-16-2012 14:33:18 UTC

@quirck: Yeah, I didn’t know that would happen. At first I thought he made his post sticky for some reason. I’ll fix my posts’ time from now on…

@Josh: I agree with the first part, but not even I want it to pass while I don’t fix the points Clucky made. I’ll kill this as soon as an admin fails the “team work” and “sense of organization”, giving me an open slot for a new proposal.

IceFromHell:

09-16-2012 14:58:24 UTC

against
Time to work on it.