Sunday, May 25, 2025

Proposal: Show Your Work

Timed out and enacted, 6-2 with the repeal rider activated. Josh

Adminned at 27 May 2025 15:53:07 UTC

In the rule “Rating”, replace “Each Drafter has a number named Rating” with “Each Drafter has a publicly tracked number named Rating”.

If a quorum of EVC’s on this Proposal contain the word “repeal”, then repeal the rule “Rating”.

Trapdoorspyder wanted to see the Ratings, and it’s probably good that everyone agrees that the values were calculated correctly.

On the other hand, Ratings aren’t actually used for anything, so if everyone feels like Ratings aren’t helpful and would rather just repeal the rule instead, we can do that too.

Comments

ais523:

25-05-2025 19:37:18 UTC

I have a concern: I think this makes Reviews much harder to write, because you would have to calculate the new Rating afterwards.

It might make more sense to do a one-off calculation in a blog post instead?

Josh: he/they

25-05-2025 19:51:36 UTC

Hard to know how to vote on this, as my order of preference is repeal > as is > oublic tracking.

DoomedIdeas: he/him

25-05-2025 20:15:57 UTC

against repeal

JonathanDark: Puzzler he/him

25-05-2025 21:09:37 UTC

@Josh: I think you could vote either def or against and then add the repeal text to your vote.

That way, it will repeal if it’s a quorum, you add your vote to keep it the status quo, and if a majority overrule you and vote for without repeal, only then is it public tracking.

JonathanDark: Puzzler he/him

25-05-2025 21:11:13 UTC

@ais: we could do a one-off on in a blog post, but the question is: when does that trigger? If we wait too long, it becomes pointless if, for example, there’s already a quorum or near a quorum of Ballots filled out.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

26-05-2025 00:15:57 UTC

for repeal

JonathanDark: Puzzler he/him

26-05-2025 01:20:31 UTC

Just to get my EVC on this:

for repeal

ais523:

26-05-2025 09:37:38 UTC

@JonathanDark: You can just do it in an unofficial blog post, whenever you want to. It doesn’t need a rule backing it.

Kevan: he/him

26-05-2025 10:22:05 UTC

against, with no strong need to remove it from the ruleset.

[ais523] Posting updates doesn’t need a rule, but having one would (depending on the wording) mean that deliberately posting false values would be cheating at the game, rather than mere conversational misrepresentation.

Josh: he/they

26-05-2025 14:59:26 UTC

against repeal, I guess

Verba:

26-05-2025 23:13:36 UTC

for Repeal. I am for the values being public, but also would prefer to repeal “Rating” as currently the value of the rule “Rating” is without contribution to the current gamestate.

JonathanDark: Puzzler he/him

26-05-2025 23:58:46 UTC

Technically, Verba’s vote doesn’t count as they were not unidled yet when it was made (at least I don’t think so).

Verba, if you wish for your vote to count, please make the same comment again.

Verba:

27-05-2025 00:19:16 UTC

for Repeal. I am for the values being public, but also would prefer to repeal “Rating” as currently the value of the rule “Rating” is without contribution to the current gamestate.

Darknight: he/him

27-05-2025 00:48:54 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

27-05-2025 07:14:33 UTC

[Jonathan] It counts; retroactivity is hopefully the most common sense approach and is covered as a recurring question in the FAQ.

JonathanDark: Puzzler he/him

27-05-2025 11:30:54 UTC

I stand corrected, thanks!

ais523:

27-05-2025 13:24:31 UTC

for repeal

DoomedIdeas: he/him

27-05-2025 14:17:52 UTC

CoV to make this Proposal reach quorum: for repeal