BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

So just a boost to people far behind? I’m down

Yup. Was originally in the first proposal but I took it out to make it a bit simpler.

I find it interesting that the veterans players don’t seem to want the catchup mechanic but the newer players all seem to want it

Look, man, I have no clue how well I’m going to do, and I at least want a chance, sooo…

yeah its no slight against anyone. I just find it interesting the current split of the votes

i thought it was a bit too similar to the card game mechanic

That was some of the inspiration yes. I think it served a good purpose at letting people who fall behind stay in the game.

Here, its even less swingy because you can only catch up with the median. meaning leaders can still run away, at least for now.

ngl, I voted , because it only doubles someone to the threshold.

I remember this hearthstone tournament where because they had a rule that says “if you lose a round, you get double points for the next round”, the two players that never lost a round, actually ended up losing to players that lost at least one game because of that catch-up rule.

This removes the possibility of someone instantly doubling to first place(they can only double to threshold), so I like it as a catch up mechanism.

The Giolitti mechanism was an ELO system ranking (supposedly) how good players were at the subgame: if a low-ranked player beat a high-ranked one, the system moved them up more than it would if they’d beaten another low-ranked player. The key thing was that it cared who was playing who.

A straight catchup mechanism for score is less interesting, and seems discouraging to the middle-pack players, if they can get overtaken by weaker, slower players who gained the same number of points (or fewer!) but did so later in the game when the median was higher.

I voted against mainly because I’ll now need to consider whether each round is one where the best gameplay in light of the catchup rule is to actually play the art game, or sandbag a round intending to play catchup later.

Now that I read more carefully and see that you can only catch up to the threshold, my issue is less of an issue. Still against; I didn’t like Magistrelli either.

For a dynasty like this, I think you need some sort of catchup mechanic. Otherwise if you fall behind early it can feel like what is the point of still playing.

For a dynasty like what?

The “choose a player to gain points every couple of days” mechanic is already a catchup one. Everyone’s best strategy is to spread those points out: I don’t want to vote for a leading player’s art, because they’ll get ahead of me, I want to vote (as best I can) for someone at the back.

not sure how effective that will be, given you don’t know who submitted which work of art

The game will adapt to that. Rules will be amended, and players will come up with ideas about how to communicate “this is my image” to the group. We’re not going to play out an entire dynasty of blindly assigning points to players until someone wins.

hmmm… CoV to per kevan & pokes