Sunday, August 20, 2023

Call for Judgment: Solar flare

Reached quorum and enacted, 3-0. Josh

Adminned at 20 Aug 2023 21:36:42 UTC

Remove the second bullet point from the gather atomic action. Uphold any gather actions that were otherwise validly undertaken on dilemmas 17 and 18.

Comments

Kevan: City he/him

20-08-2023 09:46:23 UTC

For the benefit of other players wondering if they can do the same thing while this CfJ is pending: is the context that you forgot about step 2, or that you knowingly performed steps 3 and 4 illegally on the grounds you could probably CfJ to uphold it?

The tracked gamestate has to sit at you having begun your Decide action but not yet performed any Governing, since that’s where the failed atomic would have dumped you back to when it hit the unperformable step 2. So I’ll revert the gamestate for now.

Josh: he/they

20-08-2023 10:00:35 UTC

No, I performed the action then remembered that I shouldn’t have done

Josh: he/they

20-08-2023 10:00:51 UTC

Then decided to fix it

lendunistus: he/him

20-08-2023 10:09:50 UTC

the garter atomic action?

Josh: he/they

20-08-2023 10:33:00 UTC

Thank you

Josh: he/they

20-08-2023 12:16:55 UTC

For what it’s worth, thought, there is room for some disagreement about whether you can perform an action that you know is going to get upheld… There is a reasonable position that upholding also expunges the mens rea of it all. In a situation like this one, where there’s minimal distinction between the action performed before enactment and after, I don’t think we should feel the need to be too strict on it.

Kevan: City he/him

20-08-2023 12:51:10 UTC

True, so long as the illegal actions are being acknowledged as such and reverted, and that we can keep track of where players are legally positioned amidst the various atomics, there’s not much difference between “if the wiki gamestate history shows an edit that corresponds to a specific but illegal action” and “if comments on this CfJ show a player using the word ploughshare”.

JonathanDark: he/him

20-08-2023 17:00:32 UTC

I even mentioned it was broken just yesterday.

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lemon: she/her

20-08-2023 20:10:18 UTC

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