No such thing as a “diety,” but whatever.

Check my DoV & Combo

Took me a while to write it though.

For the record: in terms of actual posting time, mine was first; yours is significantly backdated.

Yes, very much so, by a couple minutes.

I started opening tabs like mad to post my copypasta once you posted that message lol.

There is some screwy ordering and duplicates apparently, hrm.

Oh well

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Promise to never use again any method/s (as in the full pathway, partial uses of the pathway of the method wouldn’t break the promise) they used to gain mana during that 12-hour period
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This clause under the Gnosis rule could be interpreted a few different ways. I feel that the pathway in question involved both Golem engraving and the “I promise I will give the Seraphim 6 mana within 96 hours of making this Promise” quest. I think this exploit could be used to gain 1 Gnosis but not 5. It also seems like a new promise of not to use a pathway to gain mana must be made each time a Gnosis is claimed, meaning very 5 different pathways need to be found before claiming deity. This may not be the understanding or intention of this clause, so I will defer to others, but that’s my interpretation.

That’s a good point, and I think rests on the ambiguity of whether a promise made can be made again. This also effects whether I (or a Golem, or Cuddlebeam) can make 20 of the same promise to get 100 Mana (for brevity and to borrow your word, let’s call making the 20 promises ‘questing’).

Assuming a promise can be made again, the quoted rule sounds to me like you have to promise not to use the entire pathway, as if the pathway is one unit that you are now banned from from start to finish. I did promise not to use this pathway (make Golem, activate Golem so that it can quest), and even could have made distinct promises by adding the specific Golem name.

That said, it’s quite possible that I broke my promise not to use the pathway. I think that I did not, because the Golems had already been made before I made any Gnosis promises, which were in part not to create any Golems, which I didn’t. But it’s ambiguous, and even if I did, promises can still be broken and as long as there’s no enacted Backlash post I can continue on albeit in dangerous territory.

(I’m on mobile so the above was hard to edit, and it might ramble on a bit. I can expand on this thought-dump closer to 21:00UTC)

Ah, yeah I guess there’s nothing stopping you from breaking the Promise anyways :P Is there even a mechanism for stopping DoVs if someone is undergoing Magical Seizures?

Not really, since posting a DoV is not a Dynastic Action.