Wednesday, April 28, 2021

Proposal: Sounds Kinda Sus To Me

self killed—Clucky

Adminned at 01 May 2021 15:36:07 UTC

Add a dynastic rule called “Imposters” and give it the following text

When an AI who has both Shadow and Human in their Understanding (the Imposter) performs a treacherous action, rather than logging their own name they may instead log the name of another AI (the Target) followed by their own name in parenthesis. They must then send the Facility Head a Private Message specifying two of their pieces of World Data, one of which “Shadow” appears in and another of which “Human” appears in. The private message must also specify the log entry the attempt corresponds to. Such a log entry is known as an Imposter Attempt.

When the Facility Head Validates an Imposter Attempt they do the following: If the Imposter did not send a private message for the attempt, or the private message specified world data which the Imposter does not possess at the time the attempt is processed, or they did not specify exactly two pieces of world data one of which one piece of World Data which contains “Shadow” and another which contains “Human”, than the attempt is Invalid and the Facility Head should modify the log entry so that only the Imposter’s name remains. Otherwise, the attempt is valid. The Imposter loses both pieces of World Data which they specified, and the Facility Head should modify the log entry so that only the Target’s name remains.

For the purposes of Behavioral Regulations, an Imposter Attempt is assumed to have been performed by the Imposter.

Add the following to the first step of the sweep

* Validate all Imposter Attempts in the Behavior Log in the order they were attempted (with the earliest attempt being validated first)



28-04-2021 18:53:49 UTC

This really sounds like it should go in the Epiphany subrule.I


28-04-2021 19:34:21 UTC

Why? Its different enough from now normal Epiphanies work. No need to clutter sub rules

lemonfanta: SHE/HER

29-04-2021 00:34:18 UTC


Jason: HE/HIM

29-04-2021 02:04:55 UTC



29-04-2021 03:22:48 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

29-04-2021 09:43:46 UTC

against for the sprawl of adding a whole separate pseudo-Epiphany mechanic, for one action.

Raven1207: HE/HIM

29-04-2021 11:14:48 UTC



29-04-2021 16:25:16 UTC

against cov


30-04-2021 16:22:44 UTC

on further thought I’m gonna against this.

Still like the idea of spoofing who performs what actions, but right now only the bad type of counterplay exists for this: if you’re the target of an attempt of this, you can go and delete the imposter attempt but that means your best bet is to perform this action right before the sweep which means the counterplay is also to have to be on right before a sweep could occur which is no fun for anyone

Zack: HE/HIM

01-05-2021 00:54:03 UTC