Monday, May 10, 2021

Proposal: [Special Case] Are Favors Favourable?

Timed out 1 vote to 4 with 3 DEFs. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 12 May 2021 18:25:56 UTC

Repeal the rule “Favours [Active]”.

Checking to see if we still want Favours around.

Comments

Lulu: she/her

10-05-2021 17:55:44 UTC

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Clucky: he/him

10-05-2021 17:59:25 UTC

I’d kinda like to actually see it in action before throwing it out. I think you being able to use the favours to gain a foot back in the game was interesting. But other than that we didn’t see it used too much.

that being said, I’m also very much still on the fence about whether having dynasties being non-isolated experiences is a good thing

Very curious Jason and Zack’s takes, as they are the two players who weren’t in last dynasty but active for most of this one, and thus have the most room to gripe. (Whereas Kevan, Josh, Raven and myself have less room to complain because we either ran the last dynasty or chose not to get favors)

Josh: Observer he/they

10-05-2021 18:33:21 UTC

Point of order: I actually had no way to generate favours in the last dynasty, although I would have done if I could.

(Nor did you, Clucky, as contenders couldn’t gift pegs to each other.)

against per Clucky; I want to see this developed further. Also, I’m unidling, hello. Quorum rises to 7.

Clucky: he/him

10-05-2021 18:37:36 UTC

You and I did not have to become contenders. could’ve instead chosen to get favors by letting someone else be a contender

Josh: Observer he/they

10-05-2021 18:39:01 UTC

I suppose that is technically true, although I would argue that I don’t choose to win, it’s just who I am

Clucky: he/him

10-05-2021 18:43:03 UTC

i mostly agree with you, I’m just trying to be as generous as possible in my evaluation of the rule. Mostly my point is that I think Jason or Zack’s opinions on how unfair or fair it felt carry more weight than yours and mine or Kevans.

Kevan: he/him

10-05-2021 19:05:16 UTC

It didn’t feel great that Favours pressured us (a bit pointlessly) away from using low numerical stats when building the dynasty. World Data may even have slipped through the cracks, for feeling more like a count of some image files than a number to manipulate directly - it didn’t occur to me when I voted it through, certainly.

I don’t mind giving Favours another run, although nobody will have any to spend next dynasty because nobody thought to add a Favour mechanism to this one.

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Janet: she/her

10-05-2021 19:32:49 UTC

against Meh. I don’t really have an opinion on favors yet, though I do agree that needing raising numbers to counteract them is not great. However, I’d like to keep them around because they seem interesting. I may change my opinion on them after I have a chance to see them used more.

pokes:

10-05-2021 19:48:17 UTC

against

Zack: he/him

10-05-2021 21:16:02 UTC

for Never really understood the system tbh

lemon: she/her

11-05-2021 07:55:23 UTC

against i feel like they havent been fully explored yet!

(i did intend for world data to be something ppl could spend favours on btw, but it was only ever done by one person)

Raven1207: he/they

11-05-2021 15:16:24 UTC

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