Monday, December 11, 2023

Proposal: Speeding Things Up

Timed out, 3-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 13 Dec 2023 21:34:53 UTC

Update the Meeting here: https://blognomic.com/archive/tyngwall_december_17_2023 to take place on December 14th 2023

In “Tyngwall” replace

A Meeting of the Tyngwall takes place each Sunday at noon, to shape the future of the Kingdom. Each Meeting of the Tyngwall is represented by a single post to the BlogNomic blog; such a post for the next scheduled Meeting may be made by any Heir or Old King if there is no such post. The title of such a post must take the format of the word ‘Tyngwall’ followed by the date upon which that Meeting will take place, and its body should include the Agenda for that Meeting, including any Existing Business due to be discussed.

with

A Meeting of the Tyngwall every four days, to shape the future of the Kingdom. Each Meeting of the Tyngwall is represented by a single post to the BlogNomic blog. The title of such a post must take the format of the word ‘Tyngwall’ followed by the date upon which that Meeting will take place, and its body should include the Agenda for that Meeting, including any Existing Business due to be discussed.

Replace

The Existing Business of each Meeting of the Tyngwall is each item of New Business that was proposed to the previous meeting of the Tyngwall.

with

The Existing Business of each Meeting of the Tyngwall is each item of New Business that was proposed to the previous meeting of the Tyngwall as well as two additional pieces of new business each generated (at the time the Meeting post is created) in the following manner:

* Randomly select the type of decree for a piece of New Business
* If it is selected to be an Endorse or Denegrate decree, randomly select a Claim, then randomly select the Strength value using the valid range for that type.
* If it is selected to be Disown decree, randomly select a Claim, then randomly select an Heir who is not already on the Disown list for that Claim.

remove

As a communal Court action, before midnight on the Wednesday of that week, any Heir or the Old King should perform the Tyngwall Agenda action as an atomic action with the steps below and post the results in a comment to the Meeting due to take place that Sunday:

Randomly select the type of decree for a piece of New Business
If it is selected to be an Endorse or Denegrate decree, randomly select a Claim, then randomly select the Strength value using the valid range for that type.
If it is selected to be Disown decree, randomly select a Claim, then randomly select an Heir who is not already on the Disown list for that Claim.
Repeat the preceding 3 steps one more time to generate a second piece of New Business.

In “Resolving a Meeting” after “otherwise do nothing.” add

In either case, make a new Meeting Post for the next Meeting of the Tyngwall which should be scheduled for four days after the meeting that was just resolved.

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

11-12-2023 20:56:43 UTC

Since Court actions are tied to the cadence of the Tyngwall, doesn’t this mean that all Court actions could then happen more often if this passes? The list of Court actions that don’t directly involve the Tyngwall but that could then happen every 4 days are:

* Assassinate (per Heir)
* Remove a Tract from a Destitute Estate (communal)
* Reduce Estate Prestige by Upkeep (communal)
* Marriage (per Heir)
* Divorce (per Heir)

Clucky: he/him

11-12-2023 21:15:09 UTC

yep that is part of the point

Desertfrog:

12-12-2023 06:27:46 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

12-12-2023 06:30:16 UTC

for

Kevan: City he/him

12-12-2023 09:24:20 UTC

“A Meeting of the Tyngwall every four days” is missing some words, and even with “takes place” would be imprecise - which days, and at what time on those days?

Does it work to read it as a non-binding statement of intent?

JonathanDark: he/him

12-12-2023 14:01:17 UTC

We definitely need the time as well somewhere, or a statement of “any time that day”, since the time being replaced was noon.

It should be a simple patch, though.

JonathanDark: he/him

12-12-2023 14:14:51 UTC

Patch Proposal posted (without quite so much alliteration)

Clucky: he/him

12-12-2023 16:04:12 UTC

how is it different than what happens today, which just specifies a date not a time?

JonathanDark: he/him

12-12-2023 16:09:08 UTC

You’re missing some words as well.

“A Meeting of the Tyngwall every four days”

There’s no verb there. You missed “takes place” or any other thing that connects the meeting with “every four days”.

Clucky: he/him

12-12-2023 16:57:11 UTC

ah oops. Its filler text anyways—the next meeting auto gets scheduled “for four days after the meeting that was just resolved” but still good to clear it up