Thursday, September 09, 2021

Proposal: Stars Align

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 11 Sep 2021 09:39:21 UTC

In the rule “Adherents” before “This list of Citizens and their qualities is tracked privately by the Ministry of Information.” add the following

A Citizen is Aligned if they are an Adherent of a Cell, have an Ideology, and the Cell they are an Adherent of shares the same Ideology.

in the rule “Buildings” after “each Building gains Progress Amount equal to the triangle number of the number of Citizens who have that Building as their Workplace” add

plus an additional two for each Aligned Citizen who has that Building as their workplace


Josh: he/they

09-09-2021 18:27:04 UTC

“A Citizen is Aligned if they have an Adherent”

A Citizen can’t have an Adherent - should this be Cell?

Clucky: he/him

09-09-2021 19:15:36 UTC

“and optionally a Cell or Idle Cell to which they are an Adherent (defaulting to no Cell)”

So the only established relationship is “A Citizen is an Adherent to a Cell”

how the possession of an Adherent works seems to be a bit vague. its not actually clearly defined what it means to be somethings Adherent

With the lack of a formal definition, and the established “Adherent” relationship between Citizen and Cell, seems to me its clear enough to talk about a Citizen’s Adherent and a Cell’s Adherents. But I suppose it doesn’t hurt to clarify. We just also might want to clarify the relationship the other way so people don’t go “Cells don’t actually have Adherents”

Josh: he/they

09-09-2021 19:23:38 UTC

You’ve changed the wording - but it now says “A Citizen is Aligned if they have are an Adherent of a Cell” - which is if anything even less clear

Josh: he/they

09-09-2021 19:32:42 UTC


I’m probably a bit against on this, as Strength in Unity will mean that most Adherents are Aligned by default and I don’t have a firm grasp on how that will impact Building progresses.

Clucky: he/him

09-09-2021 20:01:31 UTC

why will Strength in Unity mean Adherents are aligned by default?

Josh: he/they

09-09-2021 20:08:57 UTC

Sorry, not even Strength in Unity - the recently enacted A Principled Populace, which means that whenever a Cell picks up a new Adherent that Adherent is picked from Citizens who share an Ideology with them.

Brendan: he/him

09-09-2021 21:47:05 UTC


Josh: he/they

09-09-2021 21:53:51 UTC



10-09-2021 07:43:44 UTC


Kevan: he/him

10-09-2021 08:09:56 UTC

Is this meant to be “the triangle number of (Citizens plus X)” or “(the triangle number of Citizens) plus X”?

The former would mean that five aligned Citizens in a building would be adding 120 progress to it every cycle.

Darknight: he/him

10-09-2021 12:00:31 UTC


Kevan: he/him

10-09-2021 14:29:20 UTC

against since this does seem entirely ambiguous.

Raven1207: he/him

10-09-2021 16:18:38 UTC


Clucky: he/him

10-09-2021 17:17:52 UTC

@Kevan that is a good point

also Brendan and Cuddlebeam have admitted to working together and so if they like this, its probably a good call its actually a bad idea


Brendan: he/him

10-09-2021 18:33:52 UTC

Hey Cuddlebeam, let’s both vote in favor of anything we want Clucky to vote against.

Brendan: he/him

10-09-2021 18:34:38 UTC

(The previous statement is intended as a gentle jest, not a bitter snipe.)