Saturday, January 02, 2010

Call for Judgment: Still about locations

Reached quorum and failed. Josh

Adminned at 04 Jan 2010 02:51:10 UTC

NoOneImportant changed his location to “Christendom”, and when challenged with the fact that Christendom in the geographical or historical sense “usually refers collectively to Christian majority countries or countries in which Christianity dominates or was a territorial phenomenon” (quoted from the reference source) which is well over 1,000 square miles, replied that he agreed with that, but intended it in the cultural sense of the community of all Christians, which at less than 3 billion people at less than 4 square feet a person comes out to less than 1,000 square miles.

Since “the community of all Christians” is (while real-world, currently existing and on Earth) not “a location” as required by the rules, set his location to “South Pole”.

Comments

Darknight: he/him

02-01-2010 22:30:10 UTC

for

Ornithopter:

02-01-2010 22:31:20 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

02-01-2010 22:39:13 UTC

for

redtara: they/them

02-01-2010 22:50:41 UTC

against We already have a method for dealing with invalid locations.

tecslicer:

02-01-2010 22:57:42 UTC

against as per Ienpw III

spikebrennan:

02-01-2010 22:58:54 UTC

for

alethiophile:

02-01-2010 23:40:35 UTC

I sort of like ‘Christendom’, at least for the creativity value. Anyway,  against per Ienpw.

Ornithopter:

02-01-2010 23:40:39 UTC

We have two equally valid ways to deal with illegal locations. This one requires consensus, which I like better than one person telling you what to do.

redtara: they/them

03-01-2010 00:11:13 UTC

So did the rule to allow the one person telling you.

90000:

03-01-2010 01:00:08 UTC

against also per Ienpw, but I like how the South Pole has become prison

Aquafraternally Yours:

03-01-2010 01:45:47 UTC

against Also per Ienpw.  More of a gulag, really…

Bucky:

03-01-2010 01:49:25 UTC

against

NoOneImportant:

03-01-2010 03:13:00 UTC

against

Based on the logic that allow the prime meridian, there is nothing that excludes Christendom.

alethiophile:

03-01-2010 04:10:58 UTC

The Prime Meridian is an unchanging location (well, set of points). Christendom, in the sense in which you use it, is the collective location of a group of people, analogous to the location of one person. Does anyone suggest that, say, ‘George W. Bush’ is a valid location?

Qwazukee:

03-01-2010 10:21:36 UTC

against for speed

Klisz:

03-01-2010 14:34:07 UTC

against

Ornithopter:

03-01-2010 17:16:01 UTC

against CoV for speed
I hate voting speed on this, but it’s pretty clear this won’t pass, no one other than NOI’s arguing for the legality of Christendom, and the Djinni’s already voted for this, so I have faith that the difference between this passing and failing is effectively nothing.

NOI: It’s also analogous to “every molecule on Earth that’s been hit by a neutrino in the last week”, in that it’s a large group of individual things of no fixed place that drop in and out of the group.

Ienpw: In what way does it require consensus? The rule is that if there’s “any dispute or controversy”, the Djinni gets to move you wherever he wants.

Kevan: he/him

03-01-2010 19:00:49 UTC

against CoV for speed. Ienpw possibly means that if the Djinni is making crazily unpopular judgements about what counts as a legal location, we could just take that power away from him, or end the dynasty.

NoOneImportant:

03-01-2010 19:55:23 UTC

Ornithopter, if you can find a wikipedia article on the neutrino molecules, you’re welcome to move there. Don’t blame me, the prime meridian folks started this one. I was in favor of sane locations only.

redtara: they/them

03-01-2010 20:40:52 UTC

I meant that the vote to allow that power was intentionally given to the Djinni.

spikebrennan:

03-01-2010 21:03:36 UTC

against