Saturday, May 20, 2017

Call for Judgment: stop these dumb scams

Reached quorum 0-4. Failed by card.

Adminned at 20 May 2017 20:22:57 UTC

Cuddlebeam has shown behavior against the spirit of the rules by exploiting the fact that Atomic Actions expire after an hour and using this to manipulate the Final Bowl matches in their favor.

Reset the Blogger Roster’s state to the state of 00:35, 16 May 2017.

Fail the CfJs “The Final Bowl is Ready” and “The Final Bowl is now Ready (again)”

Add to Atomic Actions

If a Manager times out an Atomic Action (i.e. starting the steps and not finishing them and then soon after starting over again) they may not take that Atomic Action a second time for a week.

Add to the “Fair Play” list

*Repeatedly and or frequently timing out Atomic Actions

Change “Endgames” to read

At 00:00 May 21, 2017, the Final Bowl starts.
The Final Bowl is a grand event. No Manager can change the state of any Blogger during the Final Bowl.
Each Non-Commissioner Manager who is not the Manager named Cuddlebeam during the event plays 13-round Matches (these are known as Final Bowl Matches, or Matches of the Final Bowl)against each other Manager who…

Is capable of playing such a Match (e.g. Managers with non-Full Teams cannot play Final Bowl Matches).
Isn’t a Manager they have already played a Final Bowl Match with.
Is not the Commissioner
Is not the Manager named Cuddlebeam

until no more Final Bowl matches can be currently played. When that happens, the Final Bowl is automatically considered Ready. (The Final Bowl can be considered Ready or not Ready and defaults to not Ready)
During this event, only matches of the Final Bowl kind can be played, and restrictions on the amount of Matches a Manager can play do not apply.

The amount of Points earned during those Matches will add to the Manager’s Final Point’s pool, which starts at zero.
The amount of Final Points of the Manager named Cuddlebeam is 13 multiplied by X where X is the number of Managers in the Final Bowl which have played all of their Final Bowl matches.
Merit is equal to the amount of Final Points a Manager has divided by their Starting Cash. This value can be decimal.
When the Final Bowl is Ready, the Final Bowl can end with a Closing Ceremony. The Commissioner has the ability to perform a Closing Ceremony. The Closing Ceremony is a blog post with a summary of all Final Bowl Matches and a tally of all Final Points and Merit.
The Manager who has achieved the most Merit after a Closing Ceremony has achieved Victory during the current Dynasty. However, in case of a tie, nobody achieves victory instead, and another Final Bowl which only involves the tied Managers should be played, until a victor arises.

pokes will oversee all Final Bowl matches and once starting the first match will complete the others within 3 hours.

Make the Final Bowl matches overseen by Cuddlebeam invalid.


Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 03:55:15 UTC


Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 04:03:23 UTC

Note that I posted this on the GNDT:

(I am declaring my intent to play with my team with stats as specified in the ruleset for any and all relevant final bowl matches, should they happen in the next 24 hours.)

Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 04:30:07 UTC


I am declaring my intent to play with my team with stats as specified in the ruleset for any relevant final bowl matches except the one versus Matt, should they happen in the next 24 hours.


20-05-2017 09:20:54 UTC

This doesn’t work, “pokes” doesn’t count as referring to a manager because it’s not explicitly declared that “pokes” refers to a manager here.


20-05-2017 09:22:15 UTC

@oracular: I don’t think you can, since even if you play yourself, your Team doesn’t count as “full”.


20-05-2017 11:20:16 UTC

against Shrug


20-05-2017 12:03:45 UTC

Also, pretty much all scams are “against the spirit of the rules”, which is the casual perception of what a rule should do.

That’s what makes them scams.

If going against the spirit of the rules are grounds to revert things, why not revert the Godmaker scam? The Image rules definitely didn’t look like infinite level engines.

Or why not revert your own Triple Strike scam?

Just poking thought here really, I agree with the rest of you that this should end already, I’m in post-after-after burner too lol.


20-05-2017 14:21:37 UTC

against I don’t like the addition to the atomic action rule, just adding something to fair play is probably sufficient.

Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 16:25:42 UTC

Sphinx: card said that you’ve been using that rule that way.

Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 16:27:10 UTC

pokes: The fair play rule apparently wasn’t sufficient for punishing Cuddlebeam the last time they violated it.  I wouldn’t trust it unless Atomic actions were limited as well.


20-05-2017 18:07:27 UTC

Oracular: I had a full team to begin with, so I could sub for one of my players. Even if you want to play, I think you don’t count for the ruleset’s definition of “Full Team”.

Or are we talking about a different rule than “Managers can take on the field themselves instead of a Blogger they’re employing for a match”?

Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 18:20:13 UTC

Nope, that was the one.  I wasn’t sure I could use it either, but card said there was a precedent.  In any case, it’s irrelevant now, since the closing ceremony was posted.

Oracular rufio:

20-05-2017 18:41:01 UTC

against COV since undoing the final bowl will just prolong things now.  We can fix atomic actions during the hiatus.


20-05-2017 20:10:12 UTC

There’s a precedent in giving permission, such as used for trades seemed similar enough to work.  against