Tuesday, May 16, 2017

Call for Judgment: Summoning Closing Ceremony

Reaches quorum against, 2-4. Failed by pokes.

Adminned at 18 May 2017 10:23:37 UTC

I’m the only person with a team and I believe we can all agree with that I’ve successfully played at least one match versus PSS (me winning it 13-0), before me doing a bunch of allegedly pseudomatches because they had vastly erroneous numbers because I couldn’t actually train them to obscenity to get those insane numbers.

The reason why me and PSS are the only people with a team right now is because your players have been stolen via:

As an action (without limitation of time), a manager may offer any other manager a sum of money for another player. If the other manager accepts, the player is moved to the team of the first manager and the sum of money is paid by the first manager to the second manager.

Which doesn’t require the target player to be owned by the manager you’re making the offer to.

Everyone else has incomplete teams, so no further Final Bowl Matches can be played. The Final Bowl is Ready (if it weren’t already, which I believe it should, but oh well), with me the only person with Merit (the only final Bowl match is me versus PSS, 13-0).

Once this CfJ is Enacted, the Commissioner should post the Closing Ceremony in a timely manner, with Cuddlebeam being able to opt to be the victor of the Dynasty (because they’re the only Manager with Merit) due to its result.

Note: You could argue that I would need to do another match versus PSS because he has a “new team” now. That has been already covered, here: https://blognomic.com/archive/final_bowl_match_the_hosts_versus_psss_unnamed_team_again

Comments

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

05-16-2017 21:01:18 UTC

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pokes:

05-16-2017 21:08:48 UTC

So, if the pseudomatches effectively didn’t happen, what *did* effectively happen was firing people off of everyone’s teams except you and PSS and then doing a 1-match Final Bowl?

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 21:21:49 UTC

If the pseudomatches effectively didn’t happen, then yes, so it is. This CfJ refers to that.

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 21:22:14 UTC

And if they DID happen, then I’ve won anyway.

pokes:

05-16-2017 22:50:20 UTC

Auctioning off someone else’s players wasn’t officially determined to be illegal, but [1] was a clear unofficial consensus that it was, and that doing so would lead to a CfJ.

[1] https://blognomic.com/archive/keep_your_fingers_off_my_bear

Oracular rufio:

05-16-2017 22:55:11 UTC

I think this is different.  This was trading.  And I would argue that both are legal according to the ruleset, and it is shame on the rest of you for not patching the hole before it was exploited.  If you want a CFJ, well, here is one right here, but I would vote in favor of it if I were not idle.

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 22:56:16 UTC

I know. We didn’t use that. We used:...

“As an action (without limitation of time), a manager may offer any other manager a sum of money for another player. If the other manager accepts, the player is moved to the team of the first manager and the sum of money is paid by the first manager to the second manager.”

...to steal players, then killauctioned them.

pokes:

05-16-2017 22:57:22 UTC

I don’t understand how that was used to steal players, if other Managers didn’t accept.

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 22:59:29 UTC

“As an action (without limitation of time), a manager may offer any other manager a sum of money for another player [No limitation here that the other Manager has to actually own such a Blogger]. If the other manager accepts, the player is moved to the team of the first manager and the sum of money is paid by the first manager to the second manager.”

pokes:

05-16-2017 22:59:53 UTC

Update: now I understand. I just needed a little time to learn how to read.

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 23:00:33 UTC

So someone could buy my Bloggers by making an offer to you for example.

Cuddlebeam:

05-16-2017 23:01:35 UTC

@Update: Ah ok cool.

Oracular rufio:

05-17-2017 02:35:26 UTC

Hey, did you recruit PSS to Blognomic to help you pull scams, Cuddlebeam?

card:

05-17-2017 03:17:42 UTC

You removed my player without auctioning it off.

card:

05-17-2017 03:19:42 UTC

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Matt:

05-17-2017 03:25:06 UTC

...a manager may offer any other manager…

Target assigned. “Other manager” is an inline reference-able entity.

If the other manager accepts…

Not just ANY other manager but THE other manager, contextually referring to the first statement.

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Sphinx:

05-17-2017 06:11:17 UTC

Matt: the problem is that the player and manager in this rule aren’t linked. Manager A can offer Manager B money for manager C’s bear. Manager B accepts.

However, the kill auctions weren’t actually closed, so all this is still very illegal - PSS can’t get other bloggers while still having a full team

Sphinx:

05-17-2017 06:16:47 UTC

Actually, even worse, you offered PSS money for players, so you would get the players, not PSS!

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Sphinx:

05-17-2017 06:20:29 UTC

Just saying, I would be in favor of this cfj, if you actually followed the rules as written. But you didn’t.

card:

05-17-2017 15:34:56 UTC

I agree with Sphinx, I would have been fine with your first scam even, if you did more preparation to follow the rules. You didn’t need to have players with a level of a Decillion to win those matches.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

05-17-2017 19:22:12 UTC

We did prepare for over a week.

Cuddlebeam:

05-17-2017 19:25:40 UTC

But I personally messed up the blogger steals copypasta.

card:

05-18-2017 05:49:06 UTC

I said more than what you did do, which obviously wasn’t enough.

For instance, why bother leveling someone else’s player off when you could just move one of the “God” players to their team while they’re playing matches?

Sphinx:

05-18-2017 06:48:46 UTC

Card: you need their approval to move players to their team, but they could simply have disassembled the teams with the second scam.

pokes:

05-18-2017 10:23:09 UTC

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