Thursday, October 29, 2020

Call for Judgment: Super Expert No Skip

Quorum Reached. Passes 7-1. I’m gonna take the easier intrepretation of just setting Josh’s turns to 0, which actually gives him a bunch of free turns, cause that unblocks the rest of the game and lets us move on.

Adminned at 30 Oct 2020 21:12:13 UTC

If the CfJ here: https://blognomic.com/archive/timeskip1#comments has passed, this CfJ does nothing. If it is still pending, fail it.

The usage of a Grinding Stone to set tile 4 19 to Green by Josh as seen here here was legally performed, and set his turns to 0.

Increase the turns of all Monks other than Josh by 1.

Alternate approach to fixing game state that doesn’t unwind things. Josh explains the problem in his CfJ

My understanding of the problem is that that move set his turns to -1, which means it was illegal. But we can’t just undo the move because there are moves that chained off of it. Best way to fix in my mind is just to give everyone else a free turn.

posted by Clucky at 29 Oct 2020 01:01:00 UTC Comments (12)

Comments

Sylav: he/him

29-10-2020 06:53:23 UTC

Yeah, this is simpler.  for

Josh: he/they

29-10-2020 08:12:39 UTC

Why set my turns to 0 and increase everyone else by 1? I should lose 6 at most.

Surely unfair to extra-penalise me.  against

Josh: he/they

29-10-2020 08:35:52 UTC

(I think the confusion here is because of the proposal that increased everyone’s turns by 3. It was enacted after the contentious edits, so my current-state Turns would be 2 (up from -1) at present under a debt forgiveness regime.)

Kevan: he/him

29-10-2020 10:57:16 UTC

I don’t think you’ve come out of this too badly, you still get to spend the 8 Turns you’ve got now before the CfJ resolves, so you’re getting 5 Turns that nobody else got, at the cost of having to work back up from zero next week.

for

Raven1207: Monarchple he/they

29-10-2020 12:02:22 UTC

against

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: he/they

29-10-2020 12:21:07 UTC

for

Bais:

29-10-2020 14:19:13 UTC

for I think this is the simplest fair-enough course of action;  perhaps even more generous than intended, given that Kevan provided a loophole for Josh to even be able to use their current turns..

Clucky: he/him

29-10-2020 14:41:00 UTC

@josh I think the CFJ is unfortunately poorly worded

The idea is that the action was legal and the action set your turns to 0

Not that the action was legal and also right now set your turns to zero

I think you can still go with the first interpretation

robotabc773: he/him

29-10-2020 16:21:34 UTC

for

Bais:

29-10-2020 16:35:01 UTC

Of course, that’s the debt-relief we were talking about;  I don’t know why I got confused about this, probably reading Kevan’s comment.

card:

29-10-2020 18:07:56 UTC

for might be fairer to let Josh enact this so that he gets a chance to use all of his turns

pokes:

30-10-2020 16:16:29 UTC

I idle, quorum becomes 7.