seems reasonable but also early in the dynasty for victory conditions like this. I think we’re safe—you can only enthrall two people a day. But I might be missing something.

Brisk AGAINST on the grounds that this was written by the player who also defined how Enthralling works, and that we haven’t even tried to use the rule yet.

I feel like if no one can spot the scam, good on Brendan for getting it buy all of us. Why paranoidly shoot down a good idea?

. Also what’s the issue with the “achieving victory” phrasing?

[Clucky] From a “getting it by” perspective, a victory proposal like this is just a bet offered to other players. If it suggested a victory condition based on mechanics that had been around for a while and we mostly had a handle on (“I bet I can hold a Sepulchre for five rounds, and you can’t”), then it’s tempting to take it. If it’s based on something that some players are less confident about (“name all 50 US States”, “win at this new subgame nobody’s tried playing yet”), less so.

Really, this one seems so far into improbable bar bet territory (everyone else has to die, and the winner has to be first to react to all of those deaths?) that I’d expect to immediately get an ear full of cider from the Jack of Spades.

[Jason] Possibly a reference to the occasions where someone writes a victory rule as “then that player may declare victory!”, which sounds like they’ve won but technically doesn’t do anything, since we all “may make a Declaration of Victory” anyway under Rule 1.7.

because I think we’ll really have to torture the ruleset to make this work as a victory condition – it seems unlikely to be achieved via normal gameplay, only by scam – and having one victory condition tends to discourage people from proposing others.

[ais523] We have seen a bit of a trend towards multiple victory conditions with different adjectives (“this is known as a Might victory”), in the past few years.

It’s almost an honor to be this thoroughly overestimated.

i dont think its a setup for a scam, i just dont like it :U