Wednesday, July 27, 2022

Proposal: Systemagic

Reaches 1-6 and cannot achieve quorum -SingularByte

Adminned at 29 Jul 2022 04:31:34 UTC

The following Systems are Deprecated: Grinder, Plate, Targeting Module, Back-Up Battery. If any Bot or any Spare Parts Bin has any Deprecated System, remove it, then increase the Money of its Operator by its Cost multiplied by its Condition. Once all Bots have no Deprecated Systems, remove all Deprecated Systems from the ruleset.

In the effects of the System called Ram, change “Shoving” to “Shoving or Bumping”.

Reduce the Consumption of Taser to 290. Give the following Systems a Consumption of 30: Mound-Shaped Body, Spikes, Cow Catcher, Lead Weight.

Add the following Systems to the ruleset:

| Snap-On Socket || ₩2,100 || 0 || Has no effect in a Bout. If the Operator of this Bot has a Readiness set to Staging then they may add a single System in their Spare Parts Bin to this Bot (disregarding for that single placement any limitations related to Hardpoints) and then destroy this System.
| Wide Axle || ₩800 || 30 || Passive: This Bot is not affected by trap panels.
| Gold-Plated Connectors || ₩2,700 || 240 || When submitting a BotScript the Operator of this Bot may select a single line of the script. While this System is on this Bot, the line in its Script thus highlighted triggers twice in a single turn when it triggers.
| Wooden Mallet || ₩700 || 88 || Melee System: Subtract 10% Condition from the Opponent’s Chassis and move them backwards four squares; this effect may not directly result in a Shove taking place.

Comments

lendunistus: he/him

27-07-2022 13:39:33 UTC

wooden mallet seems way too OP, there’d be no reason to not use it over the axe or flamethrower. either scrap it or nerf the effect (i’m in favor of the former since I feel like there’s no way to have a gadget like that without completely deprecating shove strats).

wide axel feels way too situational to be worth using

snap-on socket 1. doesn’t work if the bot has used all its hardpoints (since it’s phrased as adding a system and THEN destroying the socket) and 2. incentivizes stalemates where nobody gets set

gold-plated connectors feels like it has potential to be extremely broken (also, pretty confusing wording? “While this System is on this Bot”)

the selling of deprecated systems should also work on systems in the spare parts bin

other changes seem good

Josh: Observer he/they

27-07-2022 14:10:45 UTC

Wooden Mallet does a lot less damage than the Axe and doesn’t have the status effect of the Flamethrower (although tbh the flamethrower could use a buff). It exists primarily as a shove counterplay, and I’m okay with that as shove is hard to counter at the moment [see: Hat, Hard] - it costs a hardpoint and doesn’t support any other strategy.

Wide axle is necessary now for shove strategies, ironically, which can be disrupted by poorly-placed traps.

Snap-on socket fixed, thanks.

Gold-plated connectors has to be worded like that as an Operator can submit a Script in the workshop with the double-line then remove the System.

Spare parts bin included, thanks.

Josh: Observer he/they

27-07-2022 14:11:48 UTC

Oh, on Snap-on-Socket stalemates: it costs more than winning currently earns, so my guess its that its use will be very situational, around avoiding condition loss more than winning bouts.

lendunistus: he/him

27-07-2022 15:27:24 UTC

re wooden mallet: fair enough in terms of axe/flamethrower, but it still completely deprecates shove strategies. there’s no reason to dedicate your entire bot to a shove strategy when you could use a mallet, which 1. allows you to fit other equipment onto your bot and 2. can be used from a longer range compared to pure shoving

I fully believe shove strategies can already be countered with strategic use of evades/flips/whatnot. we’ll see how my bout with Snisbo turns out

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

27-07-2022 15:52:38 UTC

I do do not believe even more sustenance is what we need currently.

Josh: Observer he/they

27-07-2022 16:11:36 UTC

More sustenance?

lendunistus: he/him

27-07-2022 16:50:02 UTC

against

gold-plated connectors + axe + flipper is an instant kill (once the flip goes off). same with gold-plated connectors + cow catcher assuming high shove power advantage

plus mallet is still OP. I’d greentick a separate proposal dedicated to the defunt systems

Chiiika: she/her

27-07-2022 17:04:48 UTC

against for same reasons as len

Darknight: he/him

27-07-2022 18:16:43 UTC

against

SingularByte: he/him

28-07-2022 08:46:25 UTC

against  I’m also not keen on deprecating parts. Sure they’re extra rule text, but as the meta changes due to rules changes, having extra options is valuable.

Raven1207: he/they

28-07-2022 18:37:54 UTC

against

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

29-07-2022 03:00:12 UTC

against