Monday, June 05, 2023

Proposal: Tempting Fate

Vetoed. Josh

Adminned at 07 Jun 2023 09:34:41 UTC

In the subrule “Yanking”, replace this text:

Yanking is an Existential Action in which a Mindjacker switches Level with another Mindjacker whose Level was, immediately prior to the Yanking, exactly one greater than their own.

with this text:

Yanking is an Existential Action performed as an atomic action with the following steps:
* Select the Mindjacker performing this instance of the Yanking action as the Yanker.
* Select the Mindjacker whose name is the Anchor of the Yanker as the Target. If the rules for Yanking can not be satisfied with this Yanker and Target, this atomic action can not be completed.
* If the Target’s Level is not exactly one greater than the Level of the Yanker, this atomic action can not be completed.
* Set T to the Suspicion of the Target, or 1 if the Target does not have a Suspicion.
* Set Y to the Suspicion of the Yanker + 1, or 1 if the Yanker does not have a Suspicion.
* Roll DICEX, where X = T + Y.
* If the result of the preceding roll is less than or equal to T, switch the Level of the Yanker with the Level of the Target.
* Set the Anchor of the Yanker to empty. This step explicitly does not change the Yanker’s Suspicion.

Attempting to mitigate the first-mover advantage of Yanking with a dice roll, so that it’s not guaranteed to work, although it becomes more likely as the target’s Suspicion becomes much higher than your own.

Comments

Kevan: he/him

05-06-2023 18:32:41 UTC

Existential Vacuum will potentially amend the text you’re quoting here, if it enacts.

JonathanDark: he/him

05-06-2023 18:38:42 UTC

Good catch. I fixed not only the text that would be amended, but also preserved Yanking as an Existential Action.

I know that Existential Vacuum has not been enacted yet, but it’s Popular, so I’m taking the chance that it will rather than overcomplicating this Proposal with directions for both cases.

Bucky:

05-06-2023 18:40:19 UTC

Umm, if the Yanker is level 1 then they must treat the target as having 1 suspicion regardless of whether the target actually has a suspicion. Is this intended?

JonathanDark: he/him

05-06-2023 18:47:09 UTC

No, it was not.

I just cleaned up the wording a bit so that it’s more straight-forward.  I’m also amusing myself with the Dr. Seuss-ian phrasing of “the Anchor of the Yanker”.

lemon: she/her

05-06-2023 22:51:35 UTC

for darn, this fixes that loophole i saw where a level 1 player could (arguably) Yank someone who had Yanked their way to level 3. had anyone else seen that?

Chiiika: she/her

06-06-2023 02:45:10 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

06-06-2023 05:13:03 UTC

I hadn’t seen that. The loophole was closed by accident.

Bucky:

06-06-2023 05:42:06 UTC

] for

summai:

06-06-2023 06:44:36 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

06-06-2023 08:12:38 UTC

I’m still averse to rules which feel written more from the perspective of a computer game (where software runs all the steps and updates everything) rather than a boardgame (where a human has to remember the rule and apply it).

Also not a fan of roll-to-succeed actions with high-ish stakes.

against

Josh: Mastermind he/they

06-06-2023 08:16:57 UTC

against Increasingly I think that Yanking needs to just come out, or be locked away until later in the dynasty.

Josh: Mastermind he/they

07-06-2023 09:34:06 UTC

veto without prejudice - as Yanked is quorate and I think it’s weird for this rule and its complicated interactions to sit in the ruleset for 3 hours or whatever