Thursday, August 11, 2011

Call for Judgment: the Cup is a bloody mess!

Timed out 3 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 15 Aug 2011 16:55:08 UTC

There is an issue when a Gladiotor holding the cup dies, as in this case the rules “Blood!” and “Vicory and Glory” contradict each other. The rule “Blood!” states:

Immediately after a Gladiator Dies, if the square where this death occurred is Empty, a Blood Pool is created there.

A contradicting statement is found in the rule “Victory and Glory”:

When the Gladiator holding The ClingBoom Cup Dies, an Instance of CUP is placed on the square where that death occurred, if it is Empty.

Is is not clear which rule takes precedence.

Therefore, in the rule “Victory and Glory” change the sentence:

When the Gladiator holding The ClingBoom Cup Dies, an Instance of CUP is placed on the square where that death occurred, if it is Empty.

to

When the Gladiator holding The ClingBoom Cup Dies, an Instance of CUP is placed on the square where that death occurred, if it is Empty or contains a Blood Pool. If a Blood pool exists in this square, remove it before placing the CUP.

If at least quorum of the EVC on this CfJ contain the string “Agora rulez!” Blacky may declare Victory.

Yeah, a contradiction, have I won now?

Comments

scshunt:

11-08-2011 22:05:12 UTC

Dude, Agora hasn’t had a paradox-victory rule for months.

for

Kevan: he/him

11-08-2011 22:47:11 UTC

The precedence of “when X” and “immediately after X” seems clear enough.

against because I don’t want you to be able to win with just three EVCs using the string you mention.

Bucky:

11-08-2011 22:48:32 UTC

against

Blacky:

12-08-2011 12:36:33 UTC

@ Coppro: But it once had… If Agora Nomic hadn’t joined, I would have left out the EVC clause.

Darknight: he/him

12-08-2011 21:13:25 UTC

against

Bucky:

12-08-2011 21:56:37 UTC

For future reference, permitting someone to declare victory does not mean they have actually achieved it.

Josh: Observer he/they

13-08-2011 07:24:56 UTC

for

Ely:

13-08-2011 10:13:18 UTC

for I agree with kevan, but more clarity is good.

Prince Anduril:

13-08-2011 17:09:39 UTC

against Re: Kevan’s argument. I don’t see a contradiction.

Prince Anduril:

13-08-2011 17:29:03 UTC

against Repeating my vote now I’m a gladiator