Saturday, March 21, 2009

Proposal: The full power of the Unfair Producer

Illegal.  Read comments. —Rodlen

Adminned at 22 Mar 2009 22:09:43 UTC

this is a continuation and addition to rule 2.2

The producer reserves the right to edit any incorrect grammer, spelling or use of punctuation in any scene.

This does not constitute the right to change the content of the script other than for clarification through the correction of incorrect application of grammar and incomprehensible word usage.

Comments

Wakukee:

03-21-2009 21:18:53 UTC

Umm… What happened to the others?

Wakukee:

03-21-2009 21:21:00 UTC

I believe that this would be illegal if the other proposals that you made had not been deleted, as you would have had 3 open at one time. Please refrain from deleting posts.

Qwazukee:

03-21-2009 22:21:18 UTC

You are hardly one to lecture others on the rules, Wak.

He’s right though, Psychotipath. You can’t delete a proposal or edit a proposal after it’s been commented on.

Also, you should probably be more specific than “this is a continuation and addition to.” It’s best if you say, “add the following before/after the sentence:” and then give the sentence.

Devenger:

03-21-2009 22:40:00 UTC

Also, capital letters and full stops make everything better, honest!

Klisz:

03-21-2009 23:28:53 UTC

against  “incorrect grammer, spelling or use of punctuation” is too vague.

Wakukee:

03-22-2009 00:14:40 UTC

Dude, forget the past. I’m not lecturing, I’m just informing.

Darknight:

03-22-2009 00:29:46 UTC

against Wak and Quaz, don’t argue on here please.

Rodlen:

03-22-2009 01:03:46 UTC

against ...Ugh…

allispaul:

03-22-2009 05:34:21 UTC

against Meh.  People should just learn how to spell.  And use “grammer.”

Kevan:

03-22-2009 09:58:40 UTC

against If you’re deleting posts which had comments on them, make sure you’ve read the Fair Play rules before taking another step, Psychotipath.

Devenger:

03-22-2009 10:49:56 UTC

This is a serious mess. There’s now two pending proposals that have been commented on, and deleted. Unless anyone has any prior experience with solving this by the Ruleset, we’ll have to CfJ our way out of it. (Of course, the breach of Fair Play is a legitimate reason to CfJ the perpetrator out of the game, but this wasn’t a malicious mistake.)

I’m pretty sure there’s something deeply invalid about this proposal, because Psycho already has two deleted, but pending, proposals. But let’s leave this open to discussion…

Psychotipath:

03-22-2009 12:35:55 UTC

true however i voted against my own previous proposals thereby selfkilling them allowing for them to be destroyed

From rule 1.5 “Proposals the author has voted against are considered self-killed”

Influenza:

03-22-2009 12:57:43 UTC

‘The oldest pending Proposal may be failed by any Admin, if any of the following are true:- ... ...The Scripter who proposed it has voted AGAINST it.’

The important part I think is that it should be an admin that sorts it out, and deleting proposals so that you can make new ones is kinda cheating ;P

Just my two pennies

Devenger:

03-22-2009 14:21:25 UTC

Just because they are self-killed, it doesn’t mean they stop existing. A self-killed proposal will be Failed, but it will never be deleted. Additionally, they can only be Failed by an admin, and only when they are at the front of the proposal queue.

Never delete anything from the blog unless the rules explicitly allow it.

ais523:

03-22-2009 16:26:03 UTC

Note that rule 1.7 does explicitly allow it, but only if there have been no comments. Once there’s been a comment on a proposal you made, that’s it; the proposal’s stuck there. You can s/k it, but it still has to reach the end of the queue and be adminned (by an admin!) before it frees up your proposal slot. (If the Producer’s feeling kind, he’ll veto your s/k and admin it, so as to free up your slot; but nothing forces him to do that.)

Wakukee:

03-22-2009 18:09:06 UTC

ais523 is correct. The reason that proposals are not deleted automatically when s/k’ed, according to Kevan, is for archiving purposes, but also because it makes it impossible to tell how many posts you have made.

Devenger:

03-22-2009 18:22:03 UTC

Though it is no longer possible to prove, there were comments on all the deleted posts…

Yoda:

03-22-2009 23:42:04 UTC

If you commented on them and someone else commented after you, you should have received an email about it.  That should be sufficient proof that there were comments on the posts.  Unless you deleted the email, of course…

arthexis:

03-23-2009 04:18:54 UTC

against  against  against  against  against (Extreme voting)

Rodlen:

03-23-2009 05:04:41 UTC

Said posts still show up on the Edit list…

Rodlen:

03-23-2009 05:09:07 UTC

And said list shows…OH MY.  FOUR PROPOSALS IN ONE DAY.


Illegal.