Sunday, November 07, 2021

Proposal: The Gig Is Up

Withdrawn. Failed by Brendan.

Adminned at 08 Nov 2021 17:04:49 UTC

Reword the text “and which does not have that Realtor as its Seller” in the rule “Trap Time” to:

and which does not have that Realtor as its Seller, and also does not have that Realtor as its Auctioneer or any of its Bidders (if it is actively being Auctioned and that Auction has not closed).

Remove all Traps from all Houses. If any Realtor has more than 16 RP, set that Realtor’s RP to 16, then distribute the RP removed in this way evenly among all other Realtors with fewer than 16 RP.

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

07-11-2021 16:37:43 UTC

I’ll support this if it refunds me for my purchased traps (unused); I also think it should revert the two days of gains TyGuy will acrete in the interim.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

07-11-2021 16:44:37 UTC

Perhaps add language to remove traps from houses present past and future that are newly owned by the owner of those traps.

Brendan: he/him

07-11-2021 16:56:42 UTC

As someone who had his house trapped for no reason, Josh, I’m not especially amenable to refunding you.

Josh: Observer he/they

07-11-2021 17:17:14 UTC

I acknowledge your dismay, Brendan, but your proposed change in this proposal would not make my traps on your property illegal, so catching them in this dragnet feels a little like a needless sideswipe; should people not be allowed to tap your properties in the ideal version of this mechanic?

Either way, do give some thought to TyGuy’s RP gain; there’s a general principle, I think, that once an exploit has been spotted and a fix proposed then directly removing future gains is within the sport of the game. His gains last night I think should be safe but we shouldn’t let him have two days of hourly income out of an excess of deference.

Brendan: he/him

07-11-2021 17:58:13 UTC

Trapping my house that I can’t even use for this exploit, and no one else’s houses, was also a bit of a needless sideswipe, no? Perhaps you’ll just have to use your still-more-Bucks-than-every-other-active-player to buy new traps.

I’ve updated the proposal with an RP cutoff.

Josh: Observer he/they

07-11-2021 18:13:29 UTC

Why 16?

I can explain why I went for your house but I don’t really feel like arguing against your umbrage; I’m sorry that it hurt your feelings but I can assure you that it wasn’t actually targetted at you personally, so much as it was strategically the right move in context from my perspective. Nevertheless I’ll restate the question: my actions weren’t illegal under the proposed rule change. Is there any justification for punishing me for them other than personal grudge-settling?

Josh: Observer he/they

07-11-2021 18:23:52 UTC

Well, as the edit window is now closed, I guess I’ll have to go against - this smacks of closing the door after the horse has already bolted, and just steps other players of a way to actual catch up with TyGuy. The arbitrary attack on my own position for playing with the rule in the way it was actually intended to be played with is kinda just icing.

Josh: Observer he/they

07-11-2021 18:26:57 UTC

Steps should be strips, there, and actual should be actually - phone fingers.

Brendan: he/him

07-11-2021 18:53:37 UTC

I picked 16 because it’s the magic number for this dynasty, as established early on by Mr. Curf.

Silverwing: she/her

07-11-2021 19:31:25 UTC

against

redtara: they/them

07-11-2021 19:54:27 UTC

for

TyGuy6:

07-11-2021 20:11:23 UTC

Thank you for not undoing all of my careful work. for

TyGuy6:

07-11-2021 21:41:26 UTC

against CoV. Josh is right, though. 16 is arbitrary and removing traps for no reason isn’t very polite to their purchasers.

TyGuy6:

07-11-2021 21:42:52 UTC

I’ll vote FOR again if a fairer proposal isn’t made that could pass, instead of this one.

Brendan: he/him

07-11-2021 23:13:48 UTC

Just to be clear, when you say “their purchasers,” who specifically do you mean?

TyGuy6:

07-11-2021 23:33:34 UTC

Well, Josh bought 3x7 in traps, and I bought 1x7. And I don’t really care if you remove mine, of course. They’ve done plenty of work. Anyone else who speculates on traps between now and then could also be included.

redtara: they/them

07-11-2021 23:39:47 UTC

Eh CoV for whatever its worth imperial

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

08-11-2021 14:34:57 UTC

against In preference of TyGuy’s proposal

Brendan: he/him

08-11-2021 17:04:17 UTC

against Withdrawn.