Monday, April 14, 2025

Proposal: The Last Thing They’ll Expect

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 15 Apr 2025 12:39:56 UTC

Add an entry to the bullet list in “Renovation”:

* Remove C as an Ingress, and add A as an Ingress

The legend was originally hidden under the A circle before I moved it out a few days ago, but A is marked as the hotel’s “Entree” on the map. (A photo of the hotel this floorplan is taken from shows an awning over the door.)

Comments

ais523:

14-04-2025 14:53:44 UTC

Possibly G has to be removed as an Ingress to make this work – otherwise ABCEFG will all be invalid as Artifact locations after the change, which will leave the map somewhat unbalanced.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

14-04-2025 16:44:29 UTC

against If this is primarily for flavor reasons I’m unsure why robbers would be choosing the front door to waltz in, and for mechanical reasons like ais pointed out as well I’m unsure this should change

Kevan: Concierge he/him

14-04-2025 16:56:53 UTC

It’s for flavour reasons in the sense that there’s a door there, and that giving the entrances different connotations adds some nuance to the bluffing and narrative. A burglar wouldn’t waltz in the front door because there’s likely to always be a guard or camera there, but maybe that means the guards will decide they don’t need to put anyone there, etc.

I don’t know whether the Artifact changes would make the map more or less interesting.

qenya: she/they

14-04-2025 17:28:31 UTC

arrow; I would vote for a version that removed G too.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-04-2025 17:40:32 UTC

arrow Also agree that G should be removed from Ingresses, though I’d also support it being changed to K (rooftop access?) if we want to keep the same number of Ingresses and just move them around for a more even distribution of Artifacts around the map.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-04-2025 17:42:14 UTC

K would also fit with Clucky’s stations proposal where the station I would be adjacent to an Ingress there.

ais523:

14-04-2025 17:47:32 UTC

I could also live with ANKX as a set of Ingresses (although it’s hard to explain K in flavour terms, it is in the right place on the map).

JonathanDark: he/him

14-04-2025 18:05:03 UTC

Yeah, I was thinking that “K” has some sort of rooftop access, like emergency ladders to the roof or something. Maybe a ventilation maintenance shaft?

qenya: she/they

14-04-2025 18:06:15 UTC

In terms of flavour, I suppose the valid Ingresses could easily change from breakin to breakin based on prevailing conditions. Maybe A wasn’t a valid Ingress for this round because one of the guests had private security stationed there, but it will be next time, while G will no longer be enterable because the streetlight outside was repaired.

Clucky: he/him

14-04-2025 18:08:08 UTC

arrow With E as a station, I think C might be a more balanced ingress

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

14-04-2025 18:59:30 UTC

arrow COV based on the other comments

Darknight: he/him

14-04-2025 19:26:02 UTC

arrow

DoomedIdeas: he/him

15-04-2025 01:44:38 UTC

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Kevan: Concierge he/him

15-04-2025 07:49:41 UTC

against Given the range of ideas in the feedback, I’ll just withdraw this rather than leaning into any particular approaches. Players are encouraged to propose their own take on whether this needs changing.