Wednesday, August 23, 2023

Proposal: The Most Toys

withdrawn
-lemon

Adminned at 24 Aug 2023 22:05:22 UTC

In the Progressive Position of “The People’s Front of Judea”, replace “High Ingenuity / Ingenuity cost of understood Innovations” with “High Ingenuity and many Innovations” and “Ingenuity + Ingenuity cost of all understood Innovations” with “Ingenuity + number of understood Innovations”.

Simplifying the only formula that requires ruleset cross-referencing, so that I can eyeball it more easily when making Faction Tests, as can players if they’re wondering where their District falls at any given moment.

Comments

Kevan: City he/him

23-08-2023 11:26:01 UTC

imperial Explicitly abstaining on this as it’s gameplay-significant, although I think minimally.

Josh: he/they

23-08-2023 11:48:34 UTC

imperial I prefer the status quo as a mechanic but recognise the imperial cognitive load, so I’m genuinely deferent to your wishes as the person running the action on this & as such would endorse you reasserting your FOR if you wish.

JonathanDark: he/him

23-08-2023 13:11:46 UTC

imperial as it doesn’t make much difference to me, and I agree that in this case, Kevan should assert his FOR vote since it’s all about his effort required to perform this action.

Kevan: City he/him

23-08-2023 13:30:35 UTC

Players should also be making this calculation!

I think it’s a useful rule of thumb that if it takes longer than a few seconds to answer a simple question about the gamestate (“which is the most Progressive District?”) when the page is right there in front of you, there’s room for improvement in the interface or the rule. We could explicitly track “Progressiveness” in a column somewhere and spend time keeping that updated, or we could simplify the calculation.

The intention is that counting Innovations instead of their costs shouldn’t make much difference to how the Districts are generally ranked. Under the current rule the Progressive scores are 4/3/3/2/0, this amendment would make them 5/4/3/3/0.

lemon: she/her

24-08-2023 00:52:14 UTC

against as the only owner of a 2-cost innovation, i’d really rather we explicitly track Innovation cost than simplify it like this! especially ‘cause the 2-cost innovation in question might be imminently rendered useless.

Kevan: City he/him

24-08-2023 06:28:40 UTC

against Withdrawing per Lemon, with a small lightbulb moment about how Nomic rulesets develop. I’ll try colour-coding the Innovations.