I don’t approve of the Drone’s currently suppressive stance, and will not support a CfJ that allows him to validate it.

Yeah this should be inactive for the current dynasty.

Only the Emperor gets to decide which special case rules they want on or off. I don’t think Kevan has done anything wrong; Kevan may make a decision for himself about what is and is not good for his dynasty and I respect him to make that decision for himself.

You can edit a CfJ for 4 hours, right? Make the change you mentioned in Discord, that if the emperor declares himself malign, he should also forfeit VETO over anything dynastic. Then I’m much more willing to vote this in.

Edit made.

@Josh they must make this decision at the BEGINNING of the dynasty. They can’t change it midway through. Since the interpretation in question is “being allowed to receive the mantle justifies the emperor trying to win” the way to uphold the status quo, reflecting the emperor’s presumed original intention, is to have this rule inactive.

But with TyGuy6’s suggestion incorporated I think that’s a trivial issue so I won’t vote against this on that basis.

Removing the parenthetical statement doesn’t change the legality of passing the mantle to the Emperor, does it?

^ i think kevan is right tho

True; if this passes I’ll tighten the wording in a follow-up.

True, this doesn’t address the issue of passing the mantle. But as a first step, having Malign Emperorship to be delineated at the start of a dynasty could be seen to imply Benign Emperorship in other circumstances. Transparency is what I’m hoping for.

The question of how emperors use vetoes in normal circumstances is a complex and separate discussion.

I think this should be folded into Dynastic Distance but it’s a good band-aid.

on the grounds that the wording will be fixed later.