Tuesday, March 03, 2015

Proposal: This Ruleset aint big enough for the two of us

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 05 Mar 2015 11:44:07 UTC

Add to the end of subrule “Contingent Proposals”

If a proposal starts with the text “Opposing X”, where X is the name of a proposal or a list of proposals, if any of those proposals pass, the Opposing proposal is considered to be Self-Killed. If the Opposing proposal passes, all proposals Opposed to it are considered to be Self-Killed

Comments

Sylphrena:

03-03-2015 02:38:02 UTC

imperial

Bucky:

03-03-2015 03:04:14 UTC

against

The last clause is an admin headache, since it requires the admin enacting any proposal to check any other recently enacted proposals to make sure none of them Opposed the one they’re working on.

ayesdeeef:

03-03-2015 03:08:37 UTC

against I thought when reading the Proposal that the second line might just be a sad necessity (even though it allows Proposals to fail other Pending Proposals), but I also don’t want to make life impossible for the admins.

Darknight:

03-03-2015 04:29:16 UTC

against

Josh:

03-03-2015 07:21:05 UTC

against Proposals can already essentially do this, but per Bucky, I don’t think it’s something we want to necessarily encourage.

mideg:

03-03-2015 09:05:16 UTC

against

Kevan:

03-03-2015 09:07:56 UTC

Bucky’s concern only needs an “and should be failed immediately” or “and the enacting admin should leave a comment on that proposal to that effect” clause, I think.

This does seem like a shorthand that it might be useful to have in some form for this dynasty - our usual “if flawed proposal X passed, repeal the rule it added and do this instead” becomes tricky when it’s possible for proposal X to pass after the one we’re writing.

:DEF:

Kevan:

03-03-2015 09:08:49 UTC

By which I mean imperial

Purplebeard:

03-03-2015 10:50:15 UTC

against Suppose we like the idea of Proposal A but prefer the implementation of Opposing Proposal B. If A passes before B, B is failed and we’re then left with the inferior rule.

Brendan:

03-03-2015 15:39:08 UTC

imperial

Ely:

03-03-2015 21:42:31 UTC

against

Sylphrena:

03-04-2015 00:53:15 UTC

imperial

Teninten:

03-04-2015 15:06:10 UTC

against