Thursday, February 05, 2009

Call for Judgment: This shouldn’t be neccessary

Timed out 1 vote to 9. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 08 Feb 2009 08:43:45 UTC

If this CFJ passes remove admin status from all users other than Site Admins (such as 75th trombone), Amnistar and Kevan. 
If people don’t trust me then we can pick someone else and then add in admins slowly and carefully watching for the ‘rogue admin’ but something needs to be done.

Comments

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:02:44 UTC

Not sure about whether we should do this yet.

Klisz:

06-02-2009 00:03:18 UTC

against This is the same thing as my CfJ to kill the rogue admin, but worse.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:04:02 UTC

for Explicit author for.

please don’t vote against if you are an admin and you know you’re innocent, that isn’t the point.  We need a small group of admins and then add slowly to this as and ensure new editions are not going to abuse the system.

I don’t know if this NEEDs to be done or not, but something needs to be done.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:05:29 UTC

Darth, your CfJ was a witch hunt to ban a member by popular vote, HOPING that it was the rogue admin.

Mine is to clear the slate with admins who are, hopefully, veiwed as trustworthy by the other players (both having been players for more than a year, and yes, thinking on it Clucky you should have been here too)

Letting the other players remain, giving us a clean slate from which to work.

Klisz:

06-02-2009 00:05:50 UTC

Fine, CoV for

Wakukee:

06-02-2009 00:06:00 UTC

Huh… Major.

Klisz:

06-02-2009 00:06:10 UTC

Posted at the same time as Amni.

Klisz:

06-02-2009 00:06:24 UTC

Posted at the same time as Wak.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:08:25 UTC

against Wait…nothing in the ruleset or in EE defines site admins.

Technically, we all are admins of the site…so this has no effect.

Super-admins are what you are looking for.

Kevan: he/him

06-02-2009 00:09:54 UTC

for

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:10:21 UTC

...I gave an example of one, technically we can de-admin them anyway so there isn’t a point, and the proposal does still do something, in fact, as they are super-admins and not admins, it still functions.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:10:55 UTC

“admin status from all users other than Site Admins”

No effect.  Should be super-admins.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:11:36 UTC

Super-admins are an admin status.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:11:36 UTC

yes, but since there is no such thing as site admins, there is no “other” so admin stat is revoked from all users.  they don’t have admin status, they have super admin status, which isn’t revoked.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:12:28 UTC

“Some Members of the Staff are Admins, responsible for updating the site and the Ruleset, and are signified as such in the sidebar.”

Note that all super-admins are marked as admins on the sidebar.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:14:38 UTC

I’ll be back in 20 minutes, if you think that is the case that’s fine, we can kill this one, but something needs to be done about this.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:30:27 UTC

Okay, Rodlen, you are correct, under this proposal, the super-admins would lose their ‘admin’ title, which would prevent them from performing admin duties under the ruleset.  In this case, should it pass, a single proposal would re-instate them to that position.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 00:47:45 UTC

I’m making a fix.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:53:12 UTC

I’ll fail mine in favor of yours when it comes out.

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 00:54:06 UTC

against in favor of Rodlen’s

Klisz:

06-02-2009 01:03:07 UTC

against

Hix:

06-02-2009 01:10:38 UTC

against

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 01:12:11 UTC

...Hix, what are you doing?

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 01:16:09 UTC

The presence of Hix’s votes, both this one and the other being the only votes from IP   76.227.77.108

Make me think this move might indeed be neccessarry

Wakukee:

06-02-2009 01:17:30 UTC

That Hix’s IP?

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 02:18:29 UTC

It is hix, he’s verified

Darknight: he/him

06-02-2009 02:46:07 UTC

against

arthexis: he/him

06-02-2009 02:50:42 UTC

I won’t vote cause I don’t know what side to pick.

Rodlen:

06-02-2009 02:52:51 UTC

This one is outdated, arth.  Vote against this one for sure.

Qwazukee:

06-02-2009 05:41:40 UTC

against

Wakukee:

06-02-2009 07:08:57 UTC

But Hix is real!

Amnistar: he/him

06-02-2009 17:35:40 UTC

0-6
need 4 more to fail.

Wooden Squid:

06-02-2009 22:45:47 UTC

against

Sparrow:

07-02-2009 03:58:36 UTC

against

zuff:

07-02-2009 22:59:32 UTC

against