Friday, February 11, 2022

Proposal: @ to %3, Checkmate

Enacted 8-0. Josh

Adminned at 12 Feb 2022 21:40:53 UTC

If Proposal: Draft Board was enacted then this proposal has no further effect.

Add a new rule to the ruleset, called Symbology:

Each Player may have a unique Symbol, which is publicly tracked and which defaults to an empty string (signifying that they have no Symbol). A Player with no Symbol may set their Symbol to any single character from the WGL4 character, with the following distinctions:

* Each Player’s Symbol must be unique; a Player may not select a Symbol that has already been selected by any active or idle Player (Symbols selected by idle Players should be publicly tracked);
* Each Player’s Symbol must be visually distinct; a Player may not select a Symbol that a casual observer would fail to distinguish from the existing Symbol of another Player or idle Player;
* A Player may not select U+0020-0 or U+00A0-0.

A Player without a Symbol may not carry out any dynastic action not described in this rule.

No teams; we just flood the board as individuals


Lulu: she/her

11-02-2022 20:57:05 UTC

if we ever try to propose anything using other symbols this could quickly become annoying

Clucky: he/him

11-02-2022 20:59:32 UTC


that is 041E (cryillic), 039F (greek) and 004F (latin). But as far as I can tell they are indistinguishable. So I think we need a curated list to choose from.

We also should find a way to deal with players who pick a symbol, go idle, someone else now uses their old symbol, and now they rejoin and suddenly the symbol isn’t unique anymore

Josh: he/they

11-02-2022 21:07:27 UTC

@Clucky I’ve made some changes; there is a subjective check on distinguishability, which seems like a better solution than a curated list; illegal values can be quickly stripped away by CfJ.

Clucky: he/him

11-02-2022 21:20:13 UTC

looks pretty good, though should probably add another “(or idle Player)” at the end of the second line

also think we need to ban 00A0 as well. Not sure how it is different from 0020. Or maybe word it in a way that they also need to be distinguishable from the space character

also I think “should"s are better than “must"s here because you could argue that a “must” makes changing your symbol to be confusingly close is illegal, but that is very objective. “Should"s would allow the game to play on while the CFJ resolves the issue.

Josh: he/they

11-02-2022 21:34:54 UTC

I have made the first two changes.

I’m a little leery of shoulds, as they seem to troublingly often resolve to someone saying “that’s recommended, not mandatory” as a way of simply ignoring the clause - which, to be fair, is often how we use them, so it’s not wrong.

Clucky: he/him

11-02-2022 21:46:35 UTC

Yeah we really need one word for “recommended” one for “you really should do this” and one for “its legally required that you do this”—stuff like this or when you’re talking about certain actions someone needs to perform fall into that middle category that we don’t really have a word for.

I’d just rather the gameplay ramifications of someone doubling up on a symbol to be “change the symbol and play on” and not “turns out that action was illegal so unwind a bunch of stuff”

wdtefv: hu/hum

11-02-2022 23:57:36 UTC

We should probably specify a range with more uniqueness among its characters than as is in the proposal.

Lulu: she/her

12-02-2022 00:57:17 UTC


redtara: they/them

12-02-2022 01:36:57 UTC



12-02-2022 05:49:12 UTC

for Love this list of symbols!

Lulu: she/her

12-02-2022 09:23:02 UTC

for cov

Darknight: he/him

12-02-2022 15:37:16 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

12-02-2022 15:41:38 UTC


Raven1207: he/they

12-02-2022 16:04:21 UTC


Zack: he/him

12-02-2022 16:20:40 UTC

for There is a frighteningly small number of emojis in the character set

Zack: he/him

12-02-2022 21:22:01 UTC

Just noticed you wrote “WGL4 character” instead of “from the “WGL4 character set”, but I think that would qualify as an obvious typo?