There are circumstances where we want to be able to change a spell in the spell list—such as https://blognomic.com/archive/the_back_room_of_the_clothier. Wouldn’t this remove that ability?

You mean through proposal? No, why would it?

Oh, because the spell list is the set of spells “as they appeared in the ruleset at the time the duel was scheduled”? Maybe it would, but the point of the spell list in the first place is so spells don’t change for a duel once it’s scheduled, so the spell you chose doesn’t suddenly change on you by the time the duel commences. So I don’t support ever be changing the spell list after the duel is scheduled. Maybe someone should propose instead making a copy of the entire ruleset when the duel is scheduled and using that for the duel.

Might as well just leave things the way they are then.

But JonathanDark’s proposal shows why there are still cases where its useful to be able to change a spell after a duel has started—in this case its just making the Harden spell do exactly what everyone casting it expects it to do, just working with the new name.

If I select a spell I wouldn’t expect it to do anything except what it said on the tin when I selected it. Also if we were on Duel 12, Back Room would change the name of a spell. What happens if I selected that spell before it was changed and then the duel commences?

Re-reading it I see I missed the clause at the end that says change the selected spell of a wizard who changed Harden to Upgrade, I still oppose changing the spell list after it’s set though.

It still seems a bit much to be tracking the need-to-know gamestate for each duel in three or four different places, to me.

I’m not sure what you mean Kevan, this wouldn’t change where anything is tracked.

Oh, that wasn’t a comment on the proposal, just the existing ruleset.