Tuesday, April 20, 2021

Proposal: TUO YAW

Timed out 5 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 22 Apr 2021 16:01:49 UTC

Remove “As a Conspicuous action, an AI may add or remove a Locked tag from the Location that is their Focus: the action of adding is named “Locking”, and removing is “Unlocking”. ” from the rule “The Facility”.

To “Epiphanies”, add a bullet:-

* LOCK: As a Conspicuous action named Locking, add a Locked tag from the Location that is your Focus.
* UNLOCK: As a Conspicuous action named Unlocking, remove a Locked tag from the Location that is your Focus.

If “Deep Dreams are Made of This” enacted, replace “LOCK:” with “LOCK (Door):” and “UNLOCK:” with “UNLOCK (Sky):” in Epiphanies.

In “Understanding”, replace “object or lifeform” with “object, lifeform or visually perceivable concept”.

Making the lock/unlock actions into simple Epiphanies: an AI has to know what a door is, in order to lock one.

Also expanding the Understanding range to clearly cover things like fire and shadows, per Clucky’s concern.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

20-04-2021 16:05:46 UTC

against yeah lets add even more actions behind stuff that requires pure luck to be able to perform!

Raven1207: he/they

20-04-2021 16:40:28 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

20-04-2021 16:47:23 UTC

Are the odds that low of getting some sky or a door in our one-per-day photos?

I think the picture recognition concept is enjoyable enough to build on rather than sideline, and “you can’t lock a door if you don’t know what a door is” seems good storytelling. If there’s too much luck in the draw, we could make images more plentiful, expand the existing trading mechanic, or something.

Clucky: he/him

20-04-2021 16:52:42 UTC

I tried generating like 30 objects. 5 had sky, only 2 had doors.

Kevan: he/him

20-04-2021 16:59:10 UTC

I just tried 30 more here and I got 10 sky to 1 door. But certain pieces of World Data being rarer and more valuable to players seems like something we could work with.

Lulu: she/her

20-04-2021 17:21:17 UTC

didn’t you edit this after votes were cast

Kevan: he/him

20-04-2021 17:28:32 UTC

No, the last edit was at 16:01.

Lulu: she/her

20-04-2021 18:40:26 UTC

for

lemon: she/her

20-04-2021 19:24:11 UTC

for if we have lots of epiphany requirements and don’t want it to be fully random, we could add a way to get a piece of world data from a specific category in the future :0

Lulu: she/her

20-04-2021 20:55:44 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

20-04-2021 21:39:03 UTC

10 sky seems a lot. Did you count anything that was outdoors (like a closeup of a flower) as showing “sky”?

Kevan: he/him

20-04-2021 21:49:13 UTC

If the background had any blue in it, yes.

Janet: she/her

21-04-2021 15:52:11 UTC

imperial