Proposal: Tweaking proposals
Times out 6 FOR to 8 AGAINST. Failed by Kevan. -2 to ais523.
Adminned at 17 Oct 2009 02:48:56 UTC
Create a new dynastic rule, “Amending Proposals”:
In addition to the sorts of votes mentioned in the rule, “Voting”, players may also make AMEND votes (using the text :ARROW:). For all purposes except those specifically mentioned here, including enactment, an AMEND vote is identical to an AGAINST vote. However, if a player votes AMEND on their own proposal, this does not count as a self-kill, and therefore can be changed and does not necessarily make it possible to fail the proposal. Additionally, if a proposal has more counted AMEND than AGAINST votes, has fewer FOR votes than Quorum, has been open for voting for no more than 24 hours, and has not been vetoed or self-killed, its proposer may edit it even if it has been commented on; immediately (within about 5 minutes) after doing so, the proposer must comment to the proposal stating that it has been edited. All FOR votes on a proposal that were made before the comment stating that it was edited do not count, for any purpose (although DEFERENTIAL votes continue to count even if they resolve to FOR); FOR votes made after a comment stating that a proposal was edited are FOR votes, as normal (unless the proposal is edited again after that FOR vote is made).
If this works out well, maybe we could make it a core rule. The idea is that if you like the idea behind a proposal but it’s buggy or otherwise problematic, you vote AMEND, and this allows the proposer to fix problems; you can then vote FOR on it after it’s fixed, without needing a fix proposal or to reset the queue. AGAINST votes are still absolute AGAINSTs, and also have the additional purpose of preventing amendment of a proposal; so the idea is that you vote AGAINST if you dislike a proposal, or AMEND if you like the idea but not the execution. To prevent abuses, amending a proposal invalidates FOR votes on it, so people have to revote to pass the new version, explicitly; that way, no version of a proposal can pass unless it’s quorumed with FOR and DEFERENTIAL-resolving-to-FOR votes, or it times out (which will be at least 24 hours after the last edit due to the time limit, and it’ll need more FOR votes after the last edit than AGAINST and AMEND votes altogether, implying that a decent number of people will have had to have looked at it and tried to pass it).
Besides, everyone loves arrows.
Wooble:
err