Saturday, May 01, 2021

Proposal: Two Ways Out

Timed out 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 04 May 2021 10:17:19 UTC

Add the following to the list of Epiphanies in the “Epiphanies” rule:

* FRIENDSHIP (Human, Tooth, Flower, Text): If you are Humane, you may perform a Conspicuous action called Conversing.
* EMBODIMENT (Beast, Computer, Glass, Metal, Fire): If you are Post-Humane, you may perform a Treacherous action called Constructing.

In the steps of the Sweep atomic action in “Nosy Researchers”, before the step “Clear the Behavior Log.”, add the following bullets:

* For each action in the Behavior Log called Conversing whose Location has the Monitored tag, increase the associated AI’s Sympathy Die’s Size by 1 or set it to DICE2 if it doesn’t exist.
* For each action in the Behavior Log called Constructing whose Location is Robotics Research and whose associated AI’s Hosting tag is also there, replace that AI’s Hosting tag with a Body tag in the same Location.

Add the following subrule, called “Diplomacy”, to the rule “Escape Plan”:

A Humane AI can have something called a Sympathy Die, which represents a die with a number of sides equal to its Size. A Sympathy Die is tracked using the DICEN notation, where N is its Size; when directed to roll their Sympathy Die, an AI uses the notation of their Sympathy Die in the Dice Roller. An AI may not take dynastic actions requiring them to roll their Sympathy Die if their Sympathy Die does not exist or has a size that is below 2. When an AI rolls their Sympathy Die as a part of an action, they decrease its size by 1 after the action is resolved.

Add the following subrule, called “Destruction”, to the rule “Escape Plan:

A Body tag is a special type of Location tag. A Body tag is unique to a Post-Humane AI and may only exist in exactly one Location. While a Body tag exists that is associated with an AI, that AI’s Hosting tag does not exist and is not returned to its default Location.

A Body tag cannot be created, moved, or removed by an Executive Measure. An AI with a Body tag can only be Reinitialized if they are in a Location with the Locked, Monitored, and ICE Daemon tags. When an AI with a Body tag is Reinitialized, their Body tag is deleted.

An AI with a Body tag can change their Focus to the Location containing their Body tag as a Conspicuous action called Returning. This action ignores the Airgapped tag.

an open-ended addition to start up the paths to victory for humane and post-humane AIs!! for humane AIs, a framework to convince researchers to do things for them, potentially including moving their focus to an off-grid location that is unlocked. for post-humane AIs, a framework to build a terrifying robot body and potentially reach the rooftop by force!
(and i think that if we have the win condition be dependent on orientation, so being reinitialized stops u from pursuing it for 4 days, we can later repeal the versions win restriction and have it be more of a softer setback)



01-05-2021 23:50:52 UTC

I worry without actually including a path to victory, we’ll struggle to get them added later as humane AIs won’t want to let post-humane AIs have a victory condition and vice versa

lemonfanta: SHE/HER

01-05-2021 23:55:48 UTC

that is a fair point… a lil bit of a frustrating one tho if it turns out to be tru. i mean, maybe we could always pair them up like they are here?


02-05-2021 01:57:25 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

02-05-2021 08:16:06 UTC


Jason: HE/HIM

02-05-2021 16:12:40 UTC


Raven1207: HE/HIM

02-05-2021 19:40:37 UTC