Monday, November 15, 2021

Proposal: Tyranny of the Minority

Reached quorum 11 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 17 Nov 2021 10:53:00 UTC

Enact a new subrule of “Realtor Rumble” entitled “Quorum Tiebreaker” as follows:

While each team has at least two members, the author of a Votable Matter cannot be considered to have voted FOR on that Votable Matter unless it has at least one effective vote of FOR by a Realtor who does not share the author’s team.

Going back and forth about whether this should be effectively a filibuster or an optional united-team veto; leaning toward the latter for now. I associate this conjecture with Kevan, but it’s come up more than once in discussion that it would be quite straightforward for a cabal the same size as quorum to just vote through a win by fiat. Since we have no Eli Curf to veto things, I’d like to head that off if possible.

Comments

TyGuy6:

15-11-2021 21:47:59 UTC

Two things:
A) EVC means the comment your vote is in, so that might not translate to a Vote of FOR.
B) Unpopular means instantly fail-able for both Proposals and CfJs. Maybe say it is not Popular, and is Unpopular if the Votable Matter is older than some number (12-24) of hours?

We should be careful with this, it’s potentially game-breaking.

TyGuy6:

15-11-2021 21:58:06 UTC

Ok, I see your edit. What about something smaller. The first AGAINST vote from another team could count as two or three AGAINST votes, for example?

Brendan: he/him

15-11-2021 22:02:04 UTC

Yes, I do want to be quite careful, and those are good suggestions.

TyGuy6:

15-11-2021 22:04:09 UTC

Counting multiple AGAINST votes doesn’t block a team-quorum from achieving popular. Ooh, how about “The author’s Vote on a Voteable Matter is never a valid Vote, unless it is against.”?

redtara: they/them

15-11-2021 22:05:55 UTC

I was just thinking about this actually. I favour the effective veto option.

Brendan: he/him

15-11-2021 22:12:48 UTC

Tweaked again with a modified version of that suggestion, Ty.

Silverwing: she/her

15-11-2021 22:17:16 UTC

I like it the way it is now!

TyGuy6:

15-11-2021 22:22:11 UTC

Haha, looks good!

lemon: she/her

16-11-2021 04:16:04 UTC

for

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

16-11-2021 04:24:34 UTC

for

Silverwing: she/her

16-11-2021 06:59:35 UTC

for

TyGuy6:

16-11-2021 07:14:20 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

16-11-2021 08:51:40 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

16-11-2021 08:55:37 UTC

“Why does the largest group not simply eat the other players?” is a recurring hypothetical that Cuddlebeam thinks never happens out of politeness, and I think never happens for game theory reasons. I think that still applies even in a team dynasty, but no harm in pre-emptively blocking it.

Josh: he/they

16-11-2021 09:07:37 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

16-11-2021 12:17:32 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

16-11-2021 14:21:39 UTC

for

pokes:

16-11-2021 15:06:09 UTC

for

Chiiika: she/her

17-11-2021 10:21:44 UTC

for