Tuesday, April 30, 2024

Proposal: Underground Economy

Withdrawn. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 02 May 2024 13:37:13 UTC

In the rule “The Thieves”, add a subrule rule named “General Fund” with the following text:

There is a publicly-tracked integer named “General Fund” that defaults to 20.

Whenever a Thief would gain Florins, the activity that generated that gain is known as a Circulation if is one of the following:
* A Haul Split
* Taking Florins from another Thief
* Destroying a Pouch
* Removing a Possession from that Thief’s Inventory

If a Thief would gain Florins from an activity that is not a Circulation, that number of Florins must first be subtracted from the General Fund. If the General Fund would become less than 0 from this subtraction, the subtraction is not performed and the Thief gains 0 Florins instead.

In the subrule “Distribution”, add the following after the text “some or all of the Thieves”:

, as well as the General Fund

In the same subrule, after the text “Move the contents of the Haul to the Thieves in the manner specified by this common Proposition;” add this text:

this is known as a Haul Split.

I wanted to see if there was interest in having economic coherence by having a common fund for the Thieves for other activites.

It’s true that this lessens the fight amongst Thieves by offering a place to put Florins so that it’s easier to make an even distribution per Haul, but that also means an increase in Thieves’ abilities to get more Florins outside of Hauls, so there’s a balance to be had. Adjusting the amount that goes to the General Fund affects these extra-curricular activities.

Comments

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

01-05-2024 09:02:30 UTC

for this seems like an easy way to fix any unused Florins, could be adjusted later if necessary

Desertfrog:

01-05-2024 11:22:06 UTC

imperial

Kevan: City he/him

01-05-2024 11:29:40 UTC

Might be more robust to require explicit phrasing of “gains X Florins from the General Fund” every time we’re dipping into the pot, to make sure that it makes sense to say this when we say it. (eg. it seems wrong for a Pocketing Thief to be taking their Florin from the Fund during a Burglary, here, and it’s unclear whether the Notoriety distribution would count as “taking” Florins from someone or not.)

I’d also push for a bit of narrative, so that players have more of an idea of what they can do with the concept, and what kinds of things it should and shouldn’t apply to. Is this an impenetrably locked chest in the thieves’ hideout? A shady moneylender who the group have an account with?

imperial

Josh: he/they

01-05-2024 11:34:43 UTC

against

JonathanDark: he/him

01-05-2024 14:09:26 UTC

I’m open to tweak this if it survives.

NadNavillus: he/him

01-05-2024 14:40:59 UTC

imperial

4st:

01-05-2024 18:37:36 UTC

for once there’s enough mechanics about, we can fiddle with the exact wordings and actually get the dynasty started methinks

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 05:30:49 UTC

against

doesn’t make sense to me that stuff like Pocket comes from the general fund

Kevan: City he/him

02-05-2024 07:43:58 UTC

against CoV with some DEFs on the board, I’m shading to against on the ambiguities and the chance that we’ll hit one during a critical processing step.

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 13:36:30 UTC

against Withdrawn