Thursday, October 26, 2023

Call for Judgment: Ungreed

Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 0 votes to 5 by Kevan.

Adminned at 26 Oct 2023 08:47:36 UTC

Subtract 5 stars from the Wizard known as lendunistus’s stars.

I don’t think the reading of greed as used in duel 6 works. I think it’s worth clarifying, as JD is doing with Greed is Too Good, but I also don’t think that lendun should be getting the stars from it as written. If we had a different battle master who interpreted it differently, lendun’s greed might have done nothing, meaning this result came about only through Clucky’s interpretation of the rules (which I think in this case, was incorrect). Regardless, nothing should ever come down to interpretation and be able to be done in different ways depending on who processes it, so… CFJ time

Comments

Clucky: he/him

26-10-2023 04:25:35 UTC

“ then those Spells are cast in the same order as those Wizards’ order in the Wizard Ring, lowest to highest. ”

No other wizard had cast the greed spell when I was processing lendun’s casting off the spell. So why shouldn’t he get the full five stars? It’s clearly not what was intended, but letter of the rules trumps spirit if the rules

JonathanDark: he/him

26-10-2023 04:44:39 UTC

I agree with Clucky on this one. No matter the intent of the rules, the wording uses the verb “cast” in multiple places, giving it definition as to what it means for this dynasty. “cast” as it relates to spells has no definition of when it applies until that bullet:

* Each Wizard’s Spell is cast…

indicating when a cast actually happens.

If another Battle Master had interpreted it a different way, and lendunistus had put up a CfJ, I would vote in his favor to receive 5 Stars in this scenario, because I think Clucky’s interpretation is the correct one.

Snisbo: she/they

26-10-2023 04:53:55 UTC

That’s fair! I think this is just on the border between “clearly this interpretation” and “it could be either”, I didn’t expect everyone to agree with me.

I was looking over it again just now and it seems you’re right - “selecting” a spell to cast isn’t treated the same as actually casting it, which is how I interpreted it initially. Withdrawn against

Snisbo: she/they

26-10-2023 04:54:14 UTC

...you can’t withdraw CfJs, can you

Bucky:

26-10-2023 05:38:00 UTC

against

JonathanDark: he/him

26-10-2023 05:58:39 UTC

No you cant. We’ll just have to vote it down.

against

Vovix: he/him

26-10-2023 06:19:28 UTC

against

lendunistus: he/him

26-10-2023 06:28:13 UTC

against

and there we go