I believe that “sets the turn state to Mansion phase 15” should probably be past tense unless you don’t plan on doing it at all until this cfj goes through.

Also, should this disregard changes after a certain point if you do, to reflect when you would have closed the phase normally?

Good points. I edited the CfJ so that it covers the time period between when the gamestate was accidentally set back to “Mansion Phase 14” and when I corrected it just a little while ago to “Explorers Phase 15”.

Since Ploys are essentially revealed in the Story Posts, it would be unfair to the folks using Ploys if enough people voted against the CfJ and forced a re-wind of the game phases, so I’d rather see this CfJ resolved first.

I apologize for the delay in turns this is going to cause.

I don’t think that this is necessary; changing gamestate tracking to say Mansion Phase 14 doesn’t make it so, any more than changing it to Explorer Phase 712 or I Am A Chicken would make any of those statements true. Tracking is just a reflection of gamestate and when it’s wrong it can just be corrected.

Mild as this isn’t necessary and I can’t be 100% sure that it isn’t retroactively validating any otherwise illegal actions.

Actually, CoV , that’s a good point. The bit that says “and were thus valid edits according to the ruleset.” is extremely broad and should say make them only valid if they otherwise would have been valid anyway.

But yeah, I do agree that we don’t actually need this. The act of setting the mansion phase couldn’t have occurred (and clearly wasn’t intended to occur due to the turn number going backwards) and so didn’t occur.

Per others and Jonathan’s “on the other hand”.

In that case should Jonathandark just go ahead and process the turn?

That’d be my vote, yeah.

I think so yes.

okay then.

assume we agree that gamestate is T15, then changing it to anything that is not by a method that allows for a tick does not change the agreed-to value

  Withdrawn

I’ll process the next turn in an hour or so.

You can’t withdraw a CfJ :)

^ CfJs cannot be wd unlike proposals :(

Ah, good to know.