Wednesday, May 23, 2018

Call for Judgment: Use the original Stats

Reached quorum 5 votes to 0 with 1 unresolved DEF. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 23 May 2018 22:12:01 UTC

reduce the danger of the creatures named sunfish and hammerhead shark by 1. Reduce their uncommonness by 3 to compensate.

This is a CfJ for timing reasons

Comments

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2018 15:49:58 UTC

for

Madrid:

23-05-2018 15:53:33 UTC

Why? Wouldn’t that set it to 0 and end the Hunt?

I don’t see anything unexpected happening. You got what you got.

Although with a worthy explanation I’ll change my vote, maybe I’m missing something.

against For now.

derrick: he/him

23-05-2018 15:55:35 UTC

No, the danger of the creatures is actually 2, not 1. This will reduce the danger to 1.

Besides, don’t you want us to hunt? Its what you were hired to do.

Madrid:

23-05-2018 16:13:44 UTC

Worthy hunters wouldn’t have gotten themselves in that problem in the first place.

Banter aside, I’m not comfortable with CFJing stuff like this. What, should we be able to CFJ having more Goals completed too? What would benefit a majority as well, let’s go do it. CFJ: Everyone who votes for this CFJ has a Goal automatically completed. Please. It’s just a power grab.

Just reduce the monster’s Danger to 1, assume the penalty and then go Hunt again, better prepared.

Or, if this is totally fine, I will CFJ more grabs as well, since it seems to be alright.

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2018 16:24:15 UTC

CfJs are for when “an aspect of the game needs urgent attention”, and my mistake in describing Creatures in today’s Log seems urgent enough - five hours passed during which players were under the misapprehension that they were facing two Danger 1 Creatures, and they may have acted differently during that time if they’d seen the two Danger 2s that were actually there.

Restarting the Encounters would also be fine. Forcing players to be penalised for my mistake probably wouldn’t be. You’re welcome to raise a different CfJ that overrides this one if you think there’s a better way to resolve this.

(Everyone’s also free to make “power grab” proposals any day of the week.)

Madrid:

23-05-2018 16:25:24 UTC

Sorry if I sounded too aggressive, its just the concept that this would be acceptable that pisses me off.

Madrid:

23-05-2018 16:26:34 UTC

@Kevan: If its from your mistake that makes it a lot more clear…

I knew I must’ve been missing something, it was too blatant otherwise lol.

Madrid:

23-05-2018 16:30:53 UTC

imperial

Corona:

23-05-2018 16:33:31 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2018 16:34:58 UTC

What would be your objection to a straight power grab CfJ, out of interest? That it can’t be vetoed by the Emperor, or that it breaks the general etiquette that CfJs are only for urgent fixes?

Madrid:

23-05-2018 16:37:45 UTC

@Kevan: Etiquette of CFJs. Mostly a game health concern.

CFJs have no cooldowns and if the prospect of a CFJ-powergrab is that it will have a reasonable chance to succeed, then it just becomes best to post up as many as possible, with no limitation aside from our IRL patience.

If its a proposal it’s way easier to deal with, logistically.

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2018 17:21:42 UTC

Other people’s patience is a very significant limit there, to the point where someone posting a lot of CfJs would probably end up worse off than they started.

(Note that a DEF vote resolves to nothing at the moment, in the absence of a Captain.)

card:

23-05-2018 18:19:02 UTC

for

Lulu: she/her

23-05-2018 22:05:03 UTC

for