Friday, February 06, 2015

Proposal: Victory Goes To The Man In The Arena

Self-killed. Josh

Adminned at 07 Feb 2015 18:15:46 UTC

If the proposal “As Far as I Could Throw It” has been enacted,

add a new rule “Victory”:

No Human Crewmember may declare victory unless they are not disabled and the Humans are Triumphant. No Android Crewmember may declare victory unless they are not disabled and the Androids are Triumphant.

Comments

ais523:

06-02-2015 05:04:00 UTC

Doesn’t this fall into the same problem which caused us to enact Triumphancy in the first place?

(Besides, I don’t really like this mechanic anyway. Partly because of the instant-blackmail effect by which Androids can cause someone to immediately lose the dynasty. Partly because having a large set of people who literally can’t win is not a good way to keep people engaged.)

_Fox_:

06-02-2015 05:14:27 UTC

Says the idle person. Speaking of people who literally can’t win…

_Fox_:

06-02-2015 05:31:16 UTC

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

ais523:

06-02-2015 05:43:38 UTC

Huh? I’ve won dynasties from idle before. Unidling is a perfectly viable game action that can be used as part of a victory attempt.

Kevan: City he/him

06-02-2015 11:34:00 UTC

against In the absence of a victory condition, this is doing the same thing as the previous proposal in the queue.

ayesdeeef:

06-02-2015 15:20:12 UTC

Theodore Roosevelt - Citizenship in a Republic.

lol for

Darknight: he/him

06-02-2015 15:31:46 UTC

imperial

Bucky:

06-02-2015 16:25:42 UTC

against because this would block any alt-win conditions.

Josh: he/they

06-02-2015 16:30:27 UTC

against

ayesdeeef:

06-02-2015 17:56:19 UTC

against Bucky’s got it right.

Darknight: he/him

06-02-2015 20:42:27 UTC

against cov

Brendan: he/him

06-02-2015 21:57:22 UTC

against

_Fox_:

07-02-2015 00:17:50 UTC

against