Friday, December 02, 2005

Voting definition

Some relevant rule texts:
* From Law 1.2:

Admin may render a Deity idle if that Deity has failed to vote for more than a week

* From Law 1.4:

Any Deity may cast eir Vote on a Pending Proposal by declaring it in the comments of the entry. Valid votes are FOR, AGAINST, and DEFERENTIAL,

* From Law 1.6:

All Deities may add votes of agreement or disagreement in comments to this entry, using appropriate voting icons (a Deity’s later votes overriding eir earlier ones).

It seems, in a very clear way, that votes in a CfJ counts against the time restraints for Idleness. Therefore, I think that any idleing of a Deity based solely on last time e voted in a Proposal will be highly ilegal.

posted by ChronosPhaenon at 02 Dec 2005 17:42:54 UTC Comments (9)

Comments

Cayvie:

02-12-2005 17:53:48 UTC

Where are CfJ’s mentioned in anything you just quoted?

It seems to me that the ruleset is extremely clear in defining “Vote”, in game terms, as only being applicable on a Proposal, and nowhere are CfJ’s defined as Proposals.

Hix:

02-12-2005 18:28:54 UTC

I don’t think that “vote” is a keyword defined by any rule.  All uses of “vote” in the ruleset are consistent with the normal English usage of the word.

Rodney:

02-12-2005 18:33:10 UTC

If anyone does try something though, all the Admins can just De-Idle themselves and kick the exploiter out.

ChronosPhaenon:

02-12-2005 19:05:05 UTC

Cayvie, Law 1.6 is all about CfJ’s, begining with its title.

Quazie:

02-12-2005 19:50:23 UTC

whats with this kicking people out?  that seems more illegal than anything as far as the rules are concerned

smith:

02-12-2005 21:06:18 UTC

It is not as clear as it could be. I would really appreciate any efforts to improve this and make the hiatus system better.

Even so, I would be annoyed with being idled even though I have been voting.

Cayvie:

02-12-2005 22:50:25 UTC

Thank you, Quazie.  I agree, I think Rodney is much too eager to punish people for legal actions.

Cayvie:

02-12-2005 22:54:24 UTC

Ugh, that sounds really nasty and mean of me.  I don’t mean it like that; I just think that actions that are legal through the rules, even if they are annoying, should not be punished.

And to Hix’s comment:
I’d say the part where Vote is defined in bold in rule 1.4 pretty much makes it a keyword.

Rodney:

02-12-2005 23:19:43 UTC

What I mean by “Kicking out” is that I don’t think that anyone who wins that way shouldn’t stay as Emperor, not that he should be banned or whatever.