Sunday, August 06, 2023

Proposal: We All Go Down Together

Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 1 vote to 3 by Kevan.

Adminned at 07 Aug 2023 07:51:23 UTC

If Proposal: Cloudy with a chance of Horde was enacted then this proposal has no further effect.

Add a new dynastic rule, called Regional Effects:

Regional Effects come into effect based on the aggregate conditions of all Districts, and apply to all Districts while they are in effect.Regional Effects that are in effect are not publicly tracked, as they are derived from publicly available information, although they may be informally tracked on the gamestate tracking page by Districts if they wish. When the conditions that caused a Regional Effect to come into effect no longer exist, that regional Effect ceases to be in place.

The Regional Effects that can exist, and the circumstances that cause them, as as follows:
Depopulation: The sum total People in all Districts is less than 200.
Famine: The average Food in all Districts is less than 4.
Marauders: The average Defences in all Districts is 0 or lower.
Nihilism: The average Order in all Districts is less than 40.

While any Regional Effect is in effect, any loss of the resource associated with that Regional Effect (Depopulation with People, Famine with Food, Marauders with Defences and Nihilism with Order) is doubled.

Comments

lendunistus: he/him

06-08-2023 08:38:16 UTC

“If the Regional Effect Maurauders”
might want to fix that

also, the Famine effect seems very strong? especially for a downside?

Josh: he/they

06-08-2023 08:55:44 UTC

What’s the problem with ‘If the Regional Effect Maurauders is in effect’?

Have buffed Famine.

Kevan: City he/him

06-08-2023 09:02:39 UTC

With only four Upsides in the ruleset at the moment, adding three conditional ones will mean that we’re going to see a lot of lopsided Dilemmas, where one outcome is “Gain X but lose Y” and the other is “(nothing happens) and lose Z”.

lendunistus: he/him

06-08-2023 09:15:26 UTC

@Josh Maurauders is misspelled

and I agree with Kevan, the upsides/downsides should at the very least have another effect that isn’t contingent on a Regional Effect

and I still don’t like how you can just choose to ignore the famine downside (and I don’t like that the population exchange is tied to a downside but I’ll wait for other opinions on that)

Josh: he/they

06-08-2023 09:22:31 UTC

Fair points. Ive removed the concequence impact for now and we can worry about that bit later.

lemon: she/her

06-08-2023 14:51:11 UTC

against the wording “average in all districts” rather than “of all districts” or “across all districts” seems unsolid, and even if it does work as intended we’ll immediately start in Nihilism! i’m not happy about that idea.

Kevan: City he/him

06-08-2023 15:07:42 UTC

imperial

JonathanDark: he/him

06-08-2023 15:51:04 UTC

I see where you’re headed as an alternative for Special Circumstances, but it’s not coming off right.

I still prefer the approach I proposed, computer wording aside (which I fixed in a later proposal, by the way)

against