Call for Judgment: Were we Enlightened guardians, Were we apes designing humans?
Times out 1-7 and fails. -scshunt
Adminned at 15 Jun 2012 23:46:13 UTC
The second paragraph from rule 2.2.4 Unblocking Chakras reads as follow:
If a Time Monk would be eligible to achieve Victory in the Dynasty that they currently occupy, were they Enlightened, and if that Dynasty has not yet been Unblocked, then they may Unblock that Dynasty by making a blog post with the Title “Unblocking a Chakra: Dynasty Xâ€, where X is the Dynasty they occupy, and placing an asterisk beside that Dynasty in the Dynastic History list on the UTD. Upon doing so, the Monk who Unblocked the Dynasty gains 1 Chronotohm. They may also add ‘XX Chakra (YY)’ to their Chakra field, where YY is the number of the Dynasty that they have Unblocked, and XX is the Chakra that has been unlocked.
I believe the phrase “were they Enlightened” implies that this paragraph only applies to Time Monks who are Enlightened; therefore is it not yet possible for a Time Monk to Unblock a Chakra, as we’re all currently Unenlightened.
Another interpretation for this paragraph would be “If the only unmatched condition for a Time Monk to be eligible to achieve Victory in the Dynasty they currently occupy is to be Enlightened, and if that Dynasty has not yet been Unblocked, then they may[...]”. However, being Enlightened is a part of the gamestate defined in the Hard Rules in the Ruleset for Dynasty 100, whereas the eligibility to achieve Victory in a specific Dynasty depends only in the parts of the gamestate defined in that Dynasty’s dynastic rules; therefore if a Time Monk would be eligible to achieve Victory in the Dynasty they occupy if they were Enlightened, then they in fact are eligible to achieve Victory. Thus “were they Enlightened” is completely redundant with that interpretation, which leads me to believe that is not the correct interpretation.
To relieve any ambiguity, replace in rule 2.2.4 Unblocking Chakras:
If a Time Monk would be eligible to achieve Victory in the Dynasty that they currently occupy, were they Enlightened, and if that Dynasty has not yet been Unblocked, then they may
with:
If an Enlightened Time Monk is eligible to achieve Victory in the Dynasty that they currently occupy, and if that Dynasty has not yet been Unblocked, then they may
Revert in the gamestate every change that did not match my interpretation of rule 2.2.4; specifically, set every Time Monk’s Chakra’s field in the GNDT to blank.
Well I guess most of you (if not all) disagree with my interpretation. And I do agree that with the Seven Chakras Proposal passed, and the sentence “An Enlightened Time Monk has achieved victory.”, my interpretation is no longer playable; but that may actually be a good thing, as I mentioned a couple days ago.
How does “were they Enlightened” mean “only if they are Enlightened? It means the exact opposed, namely “If they were Enlightened, could they do this”. You cannot obtain victory without being Enlightened, so we need that clause.
Kevan: he/him
The “Time Monk may not declare Victory if he or she is Unenlightened” of Ruleset 100 goes for other dynasties as well, I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that an earlier-Dynasty Victory only depends on “the parts of the gamestate defined in that Dynasty’s dynastic rules”. Ruleset 100 always applies. “A Time Monk is subject to the Dynastic Rules of the final ruleset of the Dynasty that they occupy, as well as the Core Rules, Glossary and Hard Rules of Dynasty 100.”