Friday, July 26, 2024

Proposal: What is a fish?

Quorum Reached. Passes 6-0—Clucky

Adminned at 28 Jul 2024 03:18:56 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule called “Fish Function”

Any alphanumeric string of letters may or may not be a fish.

The Fish Function is an English phrase no longer than 100 words which describes a process for determining if a given alphanumeric string is a fish or not, and is secretly tracked by the Elder Judge. If the Elder Judge has not set a Fish Function, they should do so at their earliest convince.

The Found Fish list on the gamestate tracking page consists a list of names of fishes and the name of the Fishing Contestant who discovered them and is by default empty

As a daily virtual action know as Fish Identification, a Fishing Contestant may privately ask the Elder Judge “Is XXXXX a fish?” where XXXXX (the target) is any alphanumeric string that is 20 characters or less, which is not the name of a fish on the Found Fish list

To resolve Fish Identification, the Elder Judge determines if the target is a fish or not as according to the Fish Function. If it is a Fish, they add it to the Fishing List with the name of the Fishing Contestant submitting the virtual action as the discoverer. If it is not a Fish, they privately inform the Fishing Contestant submitting the virtual action of this fact

FISH ZENDO

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

26-07-2024 16:57:08 UTC

“dynastic tracking page” - do you mean “gamestate tracking page”? I don’t know that those two terms are synonymous. We’d usually just say something like “The Found Fish list is publicly tracked and consists…”

Otherwise, I like the guessing game.

Darknight: Elder Judge he/him

26-07-2024 21:33:04 UTC

Can I get some clarity on how this works?

JonathanDark: he/him

26-07-2024 21:55:01 UTC

So the idea is that you secretly come up with a phrase that describes what a fish is. For example, you could decide that this is the Fish Function:

A Fish has two eyes and can only live underwater

Fishing Contestants then send in their guesses for what is a fish. If a Fishing Contestant sends in “Is a frog a fish”, you evaluate that against your Fish Function, and since a frog can live out of water, it is not a fish according to your function. Neither is “a jellyfish”, which can only live underwater but doesn’t have two eyes.

Of course you can come up with a more obscure Fish Function that might not have anything to do with fish, such as:

A Fish is capable of flying

If a Fishing Contestant sent in “a kite”, that would match the above function.

JonathanDark: he/him

26-07-2024 23:15:05 UTC

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Clucky: he/him

27-07-2024 00:24:45 UTC

At least how I intended it, i’m not actually sure

“A Fish has two eyes and can only live underwater” is a valid fish function. Think instead you might need something like “A Fish is the english spelling of an animal which has two eyes and can only live underwater”


I was thinking it be detached from meanings of words and so work more like “A Fish has between two and four vowels”

Someone would then ask you “Is Banana a fish?” and you’d confirm yes, and add “Banana” to the fish list

Someone would then ask “Is Mayonnaise a fish?” and you’d respond “no” but not post anything

People would then have to use the fish list to try and determine what the fish function actually is

(if you’ve ever played zendo on the zendo channel, its like that though with some tweaks like negatives only being privately reported)

Clucky: he/him

27-07-2024 00:26:38 UTC

obviously if its not the direction you were hoping the dynasty to go feel free to vote against/veto I just didn’t really have anything to work with so was coming up with ideas that could be fun and the idea of THŔ̸̐Ő̸̾M̵͠ messing with the fundamental rules so we don’t even know what’s considered a “fish” anymore seemed fun

Darknight: Elder Judge he/him

27-07-2024 00:28:08 UTC

Ah kk.  for

SingularByte: he/him

27-07-2024 05:21:44 UTC

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GloopyGhost:

27-07-2024 17:19:47 UTC

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Lukas:

28-07-2024 01:16:31 UTC

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