Friday, December 31, 2010

What’s happened to us?

I just enacted three proposals. They had been pending for four days straight.

Normally, when this sort of thing happens, we blame it on the summer, which tends to slow down the game. But it’s New Year’s Eve.

I remember a time when proposals reached quorum within the twelve hours required. I remember a time when great players like arthexis and Yoda and Oze and the Ukee Brothers played among us. I remember a time when dynasties were a month long. I remember a time when BlogNomic was great.

What happened to that time?

If BlogNomic is dying, then I refuse to let it. I will admin every proposal, idle every due member, and welcome every player until our glorious nomic is alive again.

Long live BlogNomic!

On a side note, SethOcean, Stormshade, Blacky, JoeFish, and Hyronious all go idle - the first after having been due for a week. Quorum drops to 7.

Comments

Josh: HE/HIM

12-31-2010 21:52:16 UTC

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Normally, when this sort of thing happens, we blame it on the summer, which tends to slow down the game. But it’s New Year’s Eve.

Exactly! Why on earth would NYE be busy? The period between xmas and going-back-to-work time is always quiet. (I pretty much only BlogNomic at work during the normal course of things.)

This dynasty hasn’t taken off despite a promising theme. Hey ho, end it and move on. But Brendan’s was both very active and very interesting in terms of mechanics… One of the best dynasties I remember, in fact. That was only a month ago.

The problem with this dynasty isn’t that proposals haven’t been adminned, it’s that they haven’t been made in the first place. That’s the fault of the theme, nothing more. But if you want to keep BN alive, that’s how you do it - make sure that your proposal slots never go unused.

Darknight: HE/HIM

12-31-2010 23:02:57 UTC

As Josh said, just because xmas is over doesn’t mean people are back. My excuse isn’t so much that i’ve been away so much that my job has left me worn out for the moment (a 6:30 am to 2:30 pm shift sucks when your not use to it). but BN always comes back from quiet moments.

Klisz:

01-01-2011 01:06:03 UTC

Exactly! Why on earth would NYE be busy? The period between xmas and going-back-to-work time is always quiet. (I pretty much only BlogNomic at work during the normal course of things.)

Excellent point, and I feel like an idiot for not noticing it. The point I was trying to make was that BN is usually most active in the winter, so seeing the game move this slowly in December seemed like a sign of its impending death. However, I agree with your response.

This dynasty hasn’t taken off despite a promising theme. Hey ho, end it and move on. But Brendan’s was both very active and very interesting in terms of mechanics… One of the best dynasties I remember, in fact. That was only a month ago.

I don’t think this dynasty needs to end yet; we should still give it a chance. I agree with you about Brendan’s, though; somehow it seemed more distant when I wrote the post.

The problem with this dynasty isn’t that proposals haven’t been adminned, it’s that they haven’t been made in the first place. That’s the fault of the theme, nothing more. But if you want to keep BN alive, that’s how you do it - make sure that your proposal slots never go unused.

That’s one problem, but not the only one. That it took four days to get three proposals enacted is certainly frightening. I will, however, be taking your advice.

Anyway, I don’t see how you can see the fact that I’m going to be adminning things actively again as a bad thing.

Roujo:

01-01-2011 04:04:17 UTC

LONG LIVE BLOGNOMIC! =D

Subrincinator:

01-01-2011 08:19:27 UTC

Hurrah!

Josh: HE/HIM

01-01-2011 09:38:31 UTC

Anyway, I don’t see how you can see the fact that I’m going to be adminning things actively again as a bad thing.

Oh, I’m thoroughly in favour of that!

Hurrah for Darth Cliche!

Purplebeard:

01-01-2011 09:58:36 UTC

Josh is right; people need to post more proposals, starting with this one: every time Darth Cliche rants about Blognomic’s looming death during a mildly inactive period, ban him for a month. Two if he says it’s already dead.

Klisz:

01-01-2011 16:56:17 UTC

If Purplebeard’s proposal passes, I’ll take the hint and just leave the game.

Klisz:

01-01-2011 16:57:39 UTC

Also, look on the bright side: At least this time I didn’t attempt to gain a dictatorship.

Subrincinator:

01-01-2011 18:07:59 UTC

Thanks for the speedy adminning, Darth.  I know my proposal was absurd, but I like to think that it helped get people active again…

against on Purplebeard’s suggestion.

ais523:

01-02-2011 00:36:49 UTC

It’s not at all surprising for a nomic to be quiet over the Christmas/New Year’s period. (Traditionally, Agora was always so quiet then that it actually has a Holiday - the equivalent of a Hiatus - at this time of year, in order to prevent people scamming via passing a proposal while nobody else is paying attention.)

Klisz:

01-02-2011 00:42:17 UTC

ais523: Yes, that’s been explained by now. (BlogNomic now has its own hiatus from Dec 24-27.)

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-02-2011 02:18:43 UTC

Aw man. Blognomic is full of real people who have family over and other things going on the week after christmas. The fact that its players choose to spend time there rather than with blognomic is clearly a sign that blognomic is dying.

Quorum of 7 is still a good deal higher than I’ve seen it before (in dynasties that have actually worked). Heck, one of the greatest moments in blognomic history was when everyone but a single person technically idled, so that person (I think it was Kevan) got a rule passed giving himself victory,

So get a better perspective of actual blognomic history and wait for longer than a few days of inactivity over the holidays before proclaiming Blognomics death.

Klisz:

01-02-2011 03:08:00 UTC

Clucky:
1) Yes, several people have pointed that out. The horse only needed to be beat once before it died.

2) I agree, a low quorum is good. When I made this post, quorum was higher.

3) Another dead horse you’re beating.