Sunday, September 27, 2009




Ienpw III:

09-27-2009 03:55:03 UTC

This has no bearing on the dynasty, and as such should not be vetoed

It was illegally vetoed per rules 15-18:
15.  The Emperor is the Emperor of the entire world.
16. Everything, physical or otherwise, rightfully belongs to the Emperor. The Emperor may take anything that rightfully belongs to por.
17. The Emperor has supreme power over anything that is pors.
18. No country, nomic, game, society, or organization (hereafter referred to as an Other Party, or OP for short) may have any rule, law, bylaw, or regulation (referred to in this ruleset as a rule) that prohibits the Emperor from possessing anything that is rightfully Pors.

I was illegally denied my title.


09-27-2009 04:13:27 UTC

As for B), just because you made a ruleset does not mean it is binding. In order for it to be binding, all affected parties must agree that it is binding. In other words, every sapient lifeform in the universe must agree.

This could get very difficult if we get into religious matters.

And as for A), it was obviously a joke proposal and I was giving you your slot back.

Ienpw III:

09-27-2009 04:22:17 UTC

> As for B)... > Not true. Let’s say there’s a law that says no parking in front of The Bank. Even if I disagree, it’s still binding.

> And as for A)... >, I would have S/Ked had I wanted my slot back.


09-27-2009 05:40:01 UTC

Your ‘rules’ (a) appear to contain false information, (b) are not gamestate and (c) are hosted on a wiki. 

Allow me to remedy point (a).

Kevan: HE/HIM

09-27-2009 10:14:08 UTC

You’re still physically able to park in front of the bank, you’re just making the decision about being able to pay or evade any fine that the bank can levy through the property laws of the society that you choose to live in.

Similarly, BlogNomic players can choose to quietly ignore someone who claims to be an emperor who owns everything in the universe. (The same way I would ignore you if you now asked for my wallet.)

Ienpw III:

09-27-2009 13:47:53 UTC

Bucky: a) They do *now*.
b) They are indeed gamestate. They regulate themselves, and as such, are gamestate.
c) Yes, they’re hosted on a wiki, but you illegally edited the ruleset. That’s illegal. Also, would you kindly unlock my user page?

Ienpw III:

09-27-2009 13:49:40 UTC

Kevan: The scope of my ownership goes beyond just the universe.


09-27-2009 18:27:45 UTC

yuri, if you want to own the entire world, you need to either (1) use force to make people bow down before you, or (2) use politics to make people want to bow down before you. There is simply no other option.

Except of course mind control. And (1) can be made easier through time travel.

Kevan: HE/HIM

09-27-2009 18:29:39 UTC

Your private delusions are fine, but writing them on wiki pages can’t overrule the game that everyone else is playing (unless you’ve cleverly altered the BlogNomic ruleset to honour external documents as binding, which you don’t seem to have done).

You can’t win a game of chess by producing a piece of paper on which you have written “Yuri wins this game of chess.”

Ienpw III:

09-27-2009 21:33:35 UTC

All I wanted to do was change my name…
I had no intention of changing the BN gamestate in any other way.