Wednesday, October 05, 2011

Proposal: You all know my opinion on daily actions, right?

Timed out 4 votes to 6. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 08 Oct 2011 01:14:02 UTC

In the rule “Critical Acclaim”, change

No artist may gain more than 5 Acclaim per day.

to

No artist may gain more than 30 Acclaim per week.

If someone finds an infinite-Acclaim scam, this prevents them needing to spam it every day to get the best possible benefit (while presumably clogging the queue to prevent a fix). If nobody does, this change is probably a no-op.

Comments

bateleur:

05-10-2011 18:59:10 UTC

against Much as I appreciate the sentiment, the trouble with your fix is that it multiplies by 6 the amount they can gain on the first day of the scam. Since any serious scam is likely to be ended fast, that’s almost all downside.

Klisz:

05-10-2011 19:37:29 UTC

for

lilomar:

05-10-2011 20:11:06 UTC

for

Bucky:

05-10-2011 23:33:05 UTC

for .  I expect that anyone who hits the cap due to a scam will be docked 25 points by proposal.

omd:

06-10-2011 01:59:36 UTC

against

scshunt:

06-10-2011 02:21:58 UTC

for

scshunt:

06-10-2011 02:22:13 UTC

For the record, I like giving scammers a reasonable reward.

scshunt:

06-10-2011 02:22:23 UTC

oh, also arrow

Josh: Observer he/they

06-10-2011 06:02:10 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

06-10-2011 09:03:28 UTC

against Per Bateleur. Given that the main way to gain acclaim at the moment is through the weekly Exhibition action, this is just raising the cap for unexpectedly high Exhibition scores from 5 to 30.

Prince Anduril:

06-10-2011 16:34:00 UTC

against

On a slightly different note. I find that penalising scammers who get great advantage from something they discover is a bit unfair. What’s the point in finding a scam, which doesn’t let you win, if people will just revert your advantage when they propose a fix.

Kevan: he/him

06-10-2011 17:38:17 UTC

A great advantage is going to end up penalised in some form anyway - if a scammer legally gains 999 Acclaim, then Acclaim has clearly become devalued. We aren’t going to blindly propose the “first to 20 Acclaim wins” rule that we might have otherwise, and we’re naturally to adjust the mechanics so that having 999 Acclaim more than everyone else isn’t that a big a deal.

I think the trick is to only claim a small advantage from a scam, so that other players respect the scam and don’t bother trying to revert it. If you scam 2 Acclaim, the average social human will regard that as a fair reward for gently outwitting everyone, and wave it through - if you scam 999 Acclaim, it’s a large enough amount that something clearly has to be done, and insisting on a simple deduction of the full 999 is less controversial than only deducting 997 in order to leave a little prize for the scammer (who has, in addition to scamming a loophole, forced everyone to sort out the resulting mess).

Darknight: he/him

07-10-2011 06:08:31 UTC

against

Prince Anduril:

07-10-2011 12:06:50 UTC

Point taken.